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2 Charles III , A.D. 2023, Canada

1st Session, 44th Parliament

Issue 162 (Unrevised)

Thursday, November 23, 2023
2 p.m.

The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

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The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

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The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Orders of the Day

Other Business

Reports of Committees – Other

Consideration of the first report of the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators, entitled Consideration of an Inquiry Report from the Senate Ethics Officer, presented in the Senate on November 21, 2023.

The Honourable Senator Seidman moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poirier, that the report be adopted.

After debate,

Pursuant to rule 12-29(2), further debate on the motion was adjourned until the next sitting.

Government Business

Bills – Third Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Moodie, seconded by the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne, for the third reading of Bill C-35, An Act respecting early learning and child care in Canada.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poirier, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, for the third reading of Bill C-48, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (bail reform), as amended.

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman:

That Bill C-48, as amended, be not now read a third time, but that it be further amended in clause 1 (as amended by the decision of the Senate on October 26, 2023), on page 3, by replacing lines 11 to 13 with the following:

“cused has, within five years of the day on which they were charged for that offence, been previously convicted of or been serving a sentence of imprisonment for another offence in the commission of which vio-”.

The question was put on the motion in amendment.

Pursuant to rule 9-10(2), a standing vote was deferred until 5:30 p.m. at the next sitting, with the bells to sound at 5:15 p.m. for fifteen minutes.

Bills – Second Reading

Second reading of Bill S-15, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act.

The Honourable Senator Klyne moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that the bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poirier, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Second reading of Bill C-34, An Act to amend the Investment Canada Act.

The Honourable Senator Gignac moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Klyne, that the bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 1, 131 and 132 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Audette:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, November 28, 2023, at 2 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Inquiries

Orders No. 3, 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE

The Senate resumed consideration of the question of privilege, raised on November 21, 2023, with respect to attempted intimidation of senators that occurred within the Senate Chamber and within the Senate of Canada Building on November 9, 2023.

After debate,

The Speaker reserved her decision.

Other Business

Senate Public Bills – Third Reading

Third reading of Bill S-258, An Act to amend the Canada Revenue Agency Act (reporting on unpaid income tax).

The Honourable Senator Downe moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Quinn, that the bill be read for a third time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Commons Public Bills – Third Reading

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Wells, seconded by the Honourable Senator Batters, for the third reading of Bill C-234, An Act to amend the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act.

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Moncion, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dupuis:

That Bill C-234 be not now read a third time, but that it be amended, in clause 2,

(a) on page 2, by replacing lines 24 to 37 with the following:

of the day on which this Act comes into force.”;

(b) on page 3, by deleting lines 1 to 9.

Debate.


Pursuant to rule 3-3(1), the Speaker left the Chair to resume the same at 8 p.m.

The sitting resumed.

Commons Public Bills – Third Reading

The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Wells, seconded by the Honourable Senator Batters, for the third reading of Bill C-234, An Act to amend the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act.

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Moncion, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dupuis:

That Bill C-234 be not now read a third time, but that it be amended, in clause 2,

(a) on page 2, by replacing lines 24 to 37 with the following:

of the day on which this Act comes into force.”;

(b) on page 3, by deleting lines 1 to 9.

After debate,

The question was put on the motion in amendment.

Pursuant to rule 9-10(6), a standing vote was deferred until the next sitting, after the deferred vote on the amendment to Bill C-48.


Ordered: That Order No. 17 under OTHER BUSINESS, Inquiries, be brought forward.

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, calling the attention of the Senate to the life of the late Honourable Ian Shugart, P.C.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Martin:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

At 9:40 p.m., pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate earlier today, the Senate adjourned until Tuesday, November 28, 2023, at 2 p.m.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Commerce and the Economy

The Honourable Senator Massicotte replaced the Honourable Senator Galvez (November 23, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

The Honourable Senator Housakos replaced the Honourable Senator Plett (November 22, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Dasko (November 23, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Dasko replaced the Honourable Senator Pate (November 23, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Busson replaced the Honourable Senator Jaffer (November 22, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The Honourable Senator MacAdam replaced the Honourable Senator Woo (November 23, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Forest replaced the Honourable Senator Cormier (November 23, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs

The Honourable Senator Coyle replaced the Honourable Senator Kutcher (November 23, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Jaffer replaced the Honourable Senator Cormier (November 23, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Dasko (November 23, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The Honourable Senator Quinn replaced the Honourable Senator Patterson (Nunavut) (November 23, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., replaced the Honourable Senator Klyne (November 22, 2023).

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