Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
Transport and Communications

Issue 1 - Minutes of Proceedings


OTTAWA, Tuesday, October 29, 2002
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications met this day at 9:33 a.m., in room 256-S, Centre Block, for the purpose of organization.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Callbeck, Eyton, Fraser, Johnson, Kinsella, LaPierre, and Phalen (7).

In attendance: Joseph P. Dion and Terrence Thomas, Research Officers, Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

The committee proceeded to organize pursuant to rule 88.

The Clerk of the Committee presided over the election of the Chair.

The Honourable Senator Johnson moved — That the Honourable Senator Fraser do take the Chair of the Committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Fraser took the Chair.

The Honourable Senator LaPierre moved — That the Honourable Senator Gustafson be Deputy Chair of the Committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Johnson moved —

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be composed of the Chair, the Deputy Chair, and one other member of the committee, to be designated after the usual consultation; and

That the subcommittee be empowered to make decisions on behalf of the committee with respect to its agenda, to invite witnesses, and to schedule hearings.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Callbeck moved —

That the committee print its proceedings; and

That the Chair be authorized to set the number to meet demand.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator LaPierre moved — That, pursuant to rule 89, the Chair be authorized to hold meetings, to receive and authorize the printing of the evidence when a quorum is not present, provided that a member of the committee from both the government and the opposition be present.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Phalen moved — That, pursuant to rule 104, the Chair be authorized to report expenses incurred by the committee during the last session.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Callbeck moved —

That the committee ask the Library of Parliament to assign research officers to the committee;

That the Chair be authorized to seek authority from the Senate to engage the services of such counsel and technical, clerical, and other personnel as may be necessary for the purpose of the committee's examination and consideration of such bills, subject-matters of bills, and estimates as are referred to it;

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be authorized to retain the services of such experts as may be required by the work of the Committee; and

That the Chair, on behalf of the committee, direct the research staff in the preparation of studies, analyses, summaries, and draft reports.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Johnson moved —

That, pursuant to section 32 of the Financial Administration Act, authority to commit funds be conferred individually on the Chair, the Deputy Chair, and the Clerk of the Committee; and

That, pursuant to section 34 of the Financial Administration Act, and Guideline 3:05 of Appendix II of the Rules of the Senate, authority for certifying accounts payable by the Committee be conferred individually on the Chair, the Deputy Chair, and the Clerk of the Committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Phalen moved — That the committee empower the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure to designate, as required, one or more members of the committee and/or such staff as may be necessary to travel on assignment on behalf of the committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Callbeck moved — That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be authorized to:

1. determine whether any member of the Committee is on "official business'' for the purposes of paragraph 8(3)(a) of the Senators Attendance Policy, published in the Journals of the Senate on Wednesday, June 3, 1998; and

2. consider any member of the Committee to be on "official business'' if that member is: (a) attending a function, event or meeting related to the work of the committee; or (b) making a presentation related to the work of the committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Phalen moved — That, pursuant to the Senate guidelines for witness expenses, the committee may reimburse reasonable traveling and living expenses for one witness from any one organization and payment will take place upon application, but that the Chair be authorized to approve expenses for a second witness should there be exceptional circumstances.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Johnson moved —

That the Chair be authorized to seek permission from the Senate to permit coverage by electronic media of its public proceedings with the least possible disruption of its hearings; and

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be empowered to allow such coverage at its discretion.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The committee considered its business.

It was agreed that, as a general practice, the audio feed of the committee's public meetings be broadcast over the Internet.

At 9:54 a.m., the committee, pursuant to rule 92(2)(e), proceeded in camera to consider a draft agenda.

At 10:20 a.m., it was agreed that the committee adjourn to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:


OTTAWA, Wednesday, October 30, 2002.
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications met this day at 6:15 p.m., in room 256-S, Centre Block, the Chair, the Honourable Joan Fraser presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senator Adams, Biron, Callbeck, Day, Fraser, Gustafson, Johnson, Kinsella, Phalen, and Spivak (10).

Other senators present: The Honourable Senator Kenny (1).

In attendance: Joseph P. Dion and Terrence Thomas, Research Officers, Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, October 24, 2002, the committee began its examination of Bill S-8, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act.

WITNESSES:

The Honourable Noël A. Kinsella, Sponsor of the Bill.

The Honourable Sheila Finestone, P.C.

From the Canadian Association of Broadcasters:

Mr. Glenn O'Farrell, President and Chief Executive Officer;

Mr. David Goldstein, Vice-President, Government Relations.

From the Canadian Cable Television Association:

Ms. Elizabeth Roscoe, Senior Vice-President, External Affairs;

Mr. Nick Masciantonio, Vice-President, Government Relations.

From the Canadian Broadcasting Association:

Mr. Michel Tremblay, Vice-President, Strategy and Business Development;

Ms. Edith Cody-Rice, Senior Legal Counsel;

Mr. Shaun Poulter, Project Manager, Government Relations.

The Honourable Senator Kinsella and the Honourable Sheila Finestone, P.C. made presentations and answered questions.

Glenn O'Farrell, David Goldstein, and Elizabeth Roscoe made presentations and answered questions.

Michel Tremblay made a presentation and, with Edith Cody-Rice, answered questions.

At 7:51 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 8:01 p.m., the committee resumed.

The committee considered its business.

It was agreed that the committee proceed to clause-by-clause consideration of Bill S-8, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act.

It was agreed that the title stand postponed.

It was agreed that clause 1 carry, on division.

It was agreed that clause 2 carry, on division.

It was agreed that the title carry, on division.

The Chair having put the question as to whether the bill shall carry, it was negatived on the following division:

YEAS — 4

The Honourable Senators:

Adams, Callbeck, Fraser, and Kinsella.

NAYS — 4

The Honourable Senators:

Day, Johnson, Phalen, and Spivak.

ABSTENTION — 1

The Honourable Senator:

Gustafson.

It was agreed that the committee suspend consideration of the bill to a future sitting.

At 8:30 p.m., it was agreed that the committee adjourn to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Till Heyde,

Clerk of the Committee


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