46 Elizabeth II, A.D. 1997, Canada

Journals of the Senate


Issue 21

Tuesday, November 25, 1997
2:00 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Andreychuk, Angus, Bacon, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Bonnell, Bosa, Bryden, Buchanan, Butts, Callbeck, Carstairs, Cochrane, Cogger, Cohen, Comeau, Cools, Corbin, De Bané, DeWare, Doody, Doyle, Eyton, Fairbairn, Forrestall, Ghitter, Gigantès, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Haidasz, Hébert, Jessiman, Johnson, Kelleher, Kelly, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kolber, LeBreton, Lewis, Losier-Cool, Lucier, Lynch-Staunton, MacDonald, Maheu, Meighen, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Phillips, Poulin, Rivest, Roberge, Robertson, Robichaud, (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Rompkey, Rossiter, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, Stanbury, Stewart, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Whelan, Wood

PRAYERS

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Tribute was paid to the memory of the Honourable John Sopinka, Puisne Judge of the Supreme Court of Canada, whose death occurred November 24, 1997. Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Oliver tabled the following (Sessional Paper No. 1/36-263S):

TUESDAY, November 25, 1997

The Special Joint Committee on a Code of Conduct, which was authorized by the Senate to incur expenses for the purpose of its examination and consideration of a Code of Conduct for Parliamentarians, reports pursuant to Rule 104, that the expenses incurred by the Committee during the Second Session of the Thirty-fifth Parliament are as follows:

1. With respect to its study on a Code of Conduct for Par liamentarians:
Professional Services     $ ---

Transportation   

 5,228.71

Witness Expenses   

 $625.29

Other   

 362.00

Total   

 $ 6,216.00

The Committee heard from 6 witnesses and held 14 meetings. The Committee presented its Final Report on March 20, 1997.

Respectfully submitted,

DONALD H. OLIVER

The Honourable Senator Stratton, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance, presented its Second Report (Supplementary Estimates (A) 1997-98).

Ordered, That the Report be printed as an Appendix to the Journals of the Senate of this day and form part of the permanent records of this House.

(See Appendix)

The Honourable Senator Stratton moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Jessiman, that the Report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Government Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bosa:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday, November 26, 1997, at 1:30 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Introduction and First Reading of Government Bills

A Message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-7, An Act to establish the Saguenay-St. Lawrence Marine Park and to make a consequential amendment to another Act, to which they desire the concurrence of the Senate.

The Bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Butts, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading on Tuesday next, December 2, 1997.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

A Message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-22, An Act to implement the Convention on the Prohibition of the Use, Stockpiling, Production and Transfer of Anti-Personnel Mines and on their Destruction, to which they desire the concurrence of the Senate.

The Bill was read the first time.

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fairbairn, P.C., that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ANSWERS TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Rule 25(2), the Honourable Senator Carstairs tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 22, dated October 1, 1997, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act-Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-264S.

Reply to Question No. 41, dated October 1, 1997, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act -Department of Regional Development - Quebec.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-265S.

Reply to Question No. 66, dated October 21, 1997, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Phillips, respecting Employment Insurance.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-266S.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Consideration of the Report of the Special Joint Committee to Amend Section 93 of the Constitution Act 1867 concerning the Quebec School System, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on November 7, 1997.

The Honourable Senator Pépin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Lucier, that the Report be adopted.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Wood moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kenny, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Second reading of Bill S-6, An Act to establish a National Historic Park to commemorate the "Persons Case".

The Honourable Senator Kenny moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, that the Bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Kenny moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, that the Bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting. Consideration of the First Report of the Special Committee of the Senate on the Cape Breton Development Corporation (budget), presented in the Senate on November 20, 1997.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs for the Honourable Senator Bryden moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gigantès, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Ordered, That Orders No. 3 and 4 be again called. Consideration of the Second Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications (budget-study on Canada's international competitive position in communications), presented in the Senate on November 20, 1997.

The Honourable Senator Bacon moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercier, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Consideration of the Third Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications (budget-study on transportation safety and security), presented in the Senate on November 20, 1997.

The Honourable Senator Bacon moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercier, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Other

Order No. 1 (motion) was called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Phillips, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bonnell:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology be authorized to examine and report upon all matters relating to the future of the Canadian War Museum, including, but not restricted to, its structure, budget, name, and independence; and

That the Committee submit its report no later than March 30, 1998.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Orders No. 5 (inquiry) and 3 (motion) were called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Bonnell, seconded by the Honourable Senator Lewis:

That the Special Senate Committee on Post-Secondary Education have power to sit on Tuesday next, November 25, 1997, at 3:30 p.m. even though the Senate may then be sitting, and that Rule 95(4) be suspended in relation thereto.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Milne moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poulin:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs have power to sit at 3:15 p.m. on Wednesday, November 26, 1997, even though the Senate may then be sitting, and that Rule 95(4) be suspended in relation thereto.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Report of the Civil Aviation Tribunal for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Aeronautics Act, S.C. 1985 (1st Sup.), c. 33, s. 35.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-261.

Statement on operation under the Veterans Insurance Act for the fiscal year ended March 31 ,1997, pursuant to the Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. V-3, s. 18(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-262.

Document entitled: "Chief Actuary's Report on Employment Insurance Premium Rates for 1997" in response to questions raised in the Senate on October 1, 1997, by the Honourable Senator Meighen and on October 30, 1997, by the Honourable Senator Bolduc.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-267S.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bacon:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.