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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
Legal and Constitutional Affairs

Issue 23 - Minutes of Proceedings


ST. JOHN'S, Tuesday, July 9, 1996 (29)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, met this day in Salon A, Hotel Newfoundland, St. John's, Newfoundland, at 9:00 a.m., the Chair, the Honourable Senator Sharon Carstairs, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Anderson, Beaudoin, Carstairs, Cogger, Doody, Jessiman, Kinsella, Lewis, Pearson, and Rompkey (10).

Other senators present: The Honourable Senator Finlay MacDonald (Halifax) and the Honourable Senator Gerald Ottenheimer (2).

In attendance: Mollie Dunsmuir, Research Officer, Research Branch of the Library of Parliament; Laura Snowball, Research Officer, Research Branch, Library of Parliament.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

WITNESSES:

Participants to the Pentecostal Panel:

Rev. Roy D. King, General Superintendent, Pentecostal Assemblies of Newfoundland;

Mr. Domino Wilkins, Superintendent of Pentecostal Board of Education;

Rev. A. Earl Batstone, Executive Director, Pentecostal Education Council;

Mr. Michael Harrington, Legal Counsel, Pentecostal Assemblies of Newfoundland.

From the Seventh-day Adventist Church:

Pastor David S. Crook, President;

Mr. George Morgan, Member of the Seventh-day Adventist School Board;

Mr. David R. Streifling, Director, Educational Superintendent;

Christine Castagne, parent;

Mr. Barry Bussey, Legal Counsel.

Walk-ons:

Mr. Robert Perreault;

Mrs. Mary Kearsey;

Dr. Leona English;

Mrs. Lois Craig;

Mrs. Elizabeth Williams, St. Agnes and St. Michael's Parish;

Mr. Andrew Healey;

Mrs. Ann Rideout;

Mr. Ern Condon;

Mrs. Sharon Whitt;

Mr. Dave Jones;

Mrs. Vee Osmond.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, June 13, 1996, the Committee continued its consideration of the resolution to amend the Constitution of Canada, Term 17 of the Terms of Union of Newfoundland with Canada. (For full text of Order of Reference please refer to Issue 19, Tuesday, June 18, 1996.)

The Chair made a statement.

Reverend Roy D. King introduced the Pentecostal panel and made a statement.

Mr. Domino Wilkins and Rev. A. Earl Batstone each made a statement and, together with Reverend King and Mr. Michael Harrington, answered questions.

Mr. Wilkins tabled with the committee a full page advertisement taken with The Advertiser (March 17, 1994) by the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador (Exhibit 5900 L1/SS1-23 "1"), and a letter from Roger D. Grimes, Minister of Education, Government of Newfoundland and Labrador, to the Honourable Senator Joyce Fairbairn dated June 5, 1996 (Exhibit 5900 L1/SS1-23 "2").

At 11:25 a.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 11:30 a.m., the sitting was resumed.

The Chair made a statement.

Pastor David S. Crook introduced the panelists from the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

Mr. George Morgan, Mr. David R. Streifling and Mrs. Christine Castagne each made a statement. Mr. Barry Bussey made a statement and, together with Messrs. Morgan and Streifling, answered questions.

The following members of the public each made a statement: Mr. Robert Perreault, Mrs. Mary Kearsey, Dr. Leona English, Lois Craig, Mrs. Elizabeth Williams, Mr. Andrew Healey, Mrs. Ann Rideout, Mr. Ern Condon, Mrs. Sharon Whitt, Mr. Dave Jones, Mrs. Vee Osmond.

At 1:20 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:


ST. JOHN'S, Tuesday, July 9, 1996 (30)

The Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, met this day in Salon A, Hotel Newfoundland, St. John's, Newfoundland, at 2:00 p.m., the Chair, the Honourable Senator Sharon Carstairs, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Anderson, Beaudoin, Carstairs, Cogger, Doody, Jessiman, Kinsella, Lewis, Pearson, and Rompkey (10).

Other senators present: The Honourable Senator Finlay MacDonald (Halifax) and the Honourable Senator Gerald Ottenheimer (2).

In attendance: Mollie Dunsmuir, Research Officer, Research Branch of the Library of Parliament; Laura Snowball, Research Officer, Research Branch, Library of Parliament.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

WITNESSES:

Participants to the Catholic Panel:

Most Reverend James H. MacDonald, D.D., Archbishop of St. John's, Chair of the Catholic Education Council of Newfoundland and Labrador;

Mr. Gerald P. Fallon, Executive Director, Catholic Education Council of Newfoundland and Labrador;

Ms Alice Prim-Furlong, Vice-President, Association of Roman Catholic School Board of Newfoundland and Labrador;

Ms Janet Henley-Andrews, Alliance for Choice in Education.

Walk-ons:

Mr. Lawrence Jardine;

Mrs. Dorice Marcil;

Mr. William McKim;

Mr. Azmy Aboulazm;

Mr. Reilly Fitzgerald;

Miss Suzanne Careen;

Mrs. Barbara Bartlett;

Miss Lisa Murphy;

Mr. Mark Graesser;

Mr. Geoffrey Aylward;

Mr. Mike Tobin, State Deputy, Knights of Columbus, Newfoundland and Labrador;

Mrs. Catherine Shiwak-Snow.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, June 13, 1996, the Committee continued its consideration of the resolution to amend the Constitution of Canada, Term 17 of the Terms of Union of Newfoundland with Canada. (For full text of Order of Reference, please refer to Issue 19, Tuesday, June 18, 1996.)

The Chair made a statement.

Senator Finlay MacDonald (Halifax) made a statement.

The Most Reverend James H. MacDonald, Archibishop of St. John's, Chair of the Catholic Education Council of Newfoundland and Labrador, and Mr. Gerald P. Fallon each made a statement.

Ms Alice Prim-Furlong made a statement.

Ms Janet Henley-Andrews made a statement.

The witnesses answered questions.

The following members of the public each made a statement: Mr. Lawrence Jardine, Mrs. Dorice Marcil, Mr. William McKim, Mr. Azmy Aboulazm, Mr. Reilly Fitzgerald, Miss Suzanne Careen, Mrs. Barbara Bartlett, Miss Lisa Murphy, Mr. Mark Graesser, Mr. Geoff Aylward, Mr. Mike Tobin and Mrs. Catherine Shiwak-Snow.

At 5:27 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:


ST. JOHN'S, Tuesday, July 9, 1996 (31)

The Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs, met this day in Salon A, Hotel Newfoundland, St. John's, Newfoundland, at 7:02 p.m., the Chair, the Honourable Senator Sharon Carstairs, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Anderson, Beaudoin, Carstairs, Cogger, Doody, Jessiman, Kinsella, Lewis, Pearson, and Rompkey (10).

Other senators present: The Honourable Senator Finlay MacDonald (Halifax) and the Honourable Senator Gerald Ottenheimer (2).

In attendance: Mollie Dunsmuir, Research Officer, Research Branch of the Library of Parliament; Laura Snowball, Research Officer, Research Branch, Library of Parliament.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

WITNESSES:

Representing the Youth Panel:

Dwayne Pilgrim, Student Council President of the Deer Lake Pentecostal School;

Jonathan Curlette, Seventh-Day Adventist Church;

Deirdre Cooper, Catholic schools;

Brad Hodder, Integrated schools;

Jeannine Benoît, Franco-jeunes de Terre-Neuve et du Labrador;

Mark Hulett, Student Education Alliance;

Robert Mendoza, President, Council of the Students' Union, Memorial University.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, June 13, 1996, the Committee continued its consideration of the resolution to amend the Constitution of Canada, Term 17 of the Terms of Union of Newfoundland with Canada. (For full text of Order of Reference, please refer to Issue 19, Tuesday, June 18, 1996.)

The Chair made a statement.

Mr. Dwayne Pilgrim made a statement.

Mr. Jonathan Curlette made a statement.

Miss Deirdre Cooper made a statement.

Mr. Brad Hodder made a statement.

Miss Jeannine Benoît made a statement.

Mr. Mark Hulett made a statement.

Mr. Robert Mendoza made a statement.

The witnesses answered questions.

At 9:18 p.m., it was agreed -- THAT the Committee proceed in camera to discuss future business of the Committee.

At 9:35 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Heather Lank

Clerk of the Committee