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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue 7 - Minutes of Proceedings


OTTAWA, Monday, December 6, 2004
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day in camera, at 9:05 a.m., in room 7, Victoria Building, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Day, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen, Munson and Nolin (9).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Grant Dawson and William Price, Analysts; Major General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Advisor; Barry Denofsky, National Security Advisor; Captain (N) Kenneth Stewart, DND Liaison Officer; and Sergeant Harold O'Connell, RCMP Liaison Officer.

In accordance with rule 92(2)(e), the committee considered its draft agenda.

At 9:27 a.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 9:30 a.m., the committee resumed its sitting in public in room 2, Victoria Building.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Wednesday, October 20, 2004, the committee continued its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No.1, Monday, October 25, 2004, of the Committee's Proceedings for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

Department of National Defence:

Vice-Admiral Ron Buck, Vice Chief of the Defence Staff.

As an individual:

Major-General (Ret'd) Lewis Mackenzie.

Office of the Auditor General of Canada:

Sheila Fraser, Auditor General of Canada;

Hugh McRoberts, Assistant Auditor General;

Wendy Loschiuk, Principal;

Peter Kasurak, Principal.

Centre for Research and Information on Canada:

Amanda Parriag.

The Chair made an opening statement.

Vice-Admiral Ron Buck made a presentation and answered questions.

At 11:00 a.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 11:05 a.m., the committee resumed its sitting.

Major-General (Ret'd) Lewis Mackenzie made a presentation and answered questions.

At 12:56 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 1:00 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting in camera in room 7, Victoria Building.

At 2:00 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 2:03 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting in public in room 2, Victoria Building.

Sheila Fraser made a presentation and answered questions with Hugh McRoberts, Wendy Loschiuk and Peter Kasurak.

At 3:30 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 3:40 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting.

Amanda Parriag made a presentation and answered questions.

At 4:36 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 4:38 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting in camera in room 7, Victoria Building

At 5:00 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Daniel Charbonneau

Clerk of the Committee