47 Elizabeth II, A.D. 1998, Canada

Journals of the Senate


Issue 47

Thursday, March 19, 1998
2:00 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Bryden, Butts, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Cogger, Cohen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, De Bané, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Fitzpatrick, Forest, Gauthier, Gigantès, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hays, Hébert, Hervieux-Payette, Jessiman, Johnstone, Joyal, Kelleher, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, LeBreton, Lewis, Losier-Cool, Lucier, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Murray, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Perrault, Pitfield, Poulin, Prud'homme, Roberge, Robichaud, (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Rompkey, Rossiter, St. Germain, Simard, Sparrow, Stewart, Stratton, Tkachuk, Watt, Whelan

PRAYERS

Tribute was paid to the Honourable Leonard Stephen Marchand, P.C., who resigned from the Senate March 1, 1998.

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., presented the following:

THURSDAY, March 19, 1998

The Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration has the honour to present its

FOURTEENTH REPORT

Your Committee has examined and approved the budget presented to it by the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry for the proposed expenditures of the said Committee for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1998:

Professional and Special Services   

 $ 30,300

Transport and Communications   

 146,594

All Other Expenditures   

 6,500

TOTAL   

 $ 183,394

Respectfully submitted,

WILLIAM ROMPKEY

Chair

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Johnstone, that the Report be adopted now.

After debate, The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., presented the following:

THURSDAY, March 19, 1998

The Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration has the honour to present its

FIFTEENTH REPORT

Your Committee has examined and approved the budget presented to it by the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry for the proposed expenditures of the said Committee for the fiscal year ending March 31, 1999:

Professional and Special Services   

 $ 18,400

Transport and Communications   

 13,049

All Other Expenditures   

 5,500

TOTAL   

 $ 36,949

Respectfully submitted,

WILLIAM ROMPKEY

Chair

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Johnstone, that the Report be adopted now.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Government Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Senator Robichaud, P.C. (Saint-Louis-de-Kent):

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday next, March 24, 1998, at 2:00 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Introduction and First Reading of Government Bills

A Message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-21, An Act to amend the Small Business Loans Act, to which they desire the concurrence of the Senate.

The Bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Perrault, P.C., that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading on Wednesday next, March 25, 1998.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ANSWERS TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Rule 25(2), the Honourable Senator Carstairs tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 43, dated October 1, 1997, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act-Secretary of State for Parks.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-507S.

Reply to Question No. 53, dated October 1, 1997, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Kenny, respecting the Alternative Fuels Act-Department of Science, Research and Development.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-508S.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Third read of Bill S-9, An Act respecting depository bills and depository notes and to amend the Financial Administration Act.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Whelan, P.C., that the Bill be read the third time.

After debate, The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the third time and passed.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate have passed this Bill to which they desire their concurrence.

Second reading of Bill C-8, An Act respecting an accord between the Governments of Canada and the Yukon Territory relating to the administration and control of and legislative jurisdiction in respect of oil and gas.

The Honourable Senator Lucier moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cook, that the Bill be read the second time.

After debate, The Honourable Senator DeWare for the Honourable Senator Spivak moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stratton, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Di Nino, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kinsella, for the second reading of Bill S-10, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act.

After debate, The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Di Nino moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator DeWare, that the Bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Orders No. 1 to 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the consideration of the Final Report of the Special Committee of the Senate on Post-Secondary Education, tabled in the Senate on December 16, 1997.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs for the Honourable Senator Forest moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Perrault, P.C., that further debate on the consideration of the Report be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Consideration of the Third Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology (budget-study on the future of the Canadian War Museum), presented in the Senate on February 25, 1998.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bolduc, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Order No. 6 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Stratton calling the attention of the Senate to the Budget presented by the Minister of Finance in the House of Commons on February 24, 1998.

After debate, The Honourable Senator DeWare for the Honourable Senator Spivak moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Di Nino, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Orders No. 48, 54 and 3 (motions) were called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Ghitter calling the attention of the Senate to the concerns expressed by Albertans with regard to the Senate as an institution: (a) its effectiveness, usefulness and viability; (b) alternative means by which to select members of the Senate; (c) the nature of its regional representation, particularly a desire to see equal numbers of Senators representing each province; (d) the length of term of office; (e) the role which a revised Senate might take at a national level; and (f) the powers which would be appropriate for it to exercise in harmony with the House of Commons.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs for the Honourable Senator Lucier moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Senator Robichaud, P.C. (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Ordered, That Inquiry No. 21 standing in the name of the Honourable Senator Gauthier be brought forward.

INQUIRIES

The Honourable Senator Gauthier called the attention of the Senate to the Journée internationale de la francophonie, on Friday, March 20, 1998.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Gigantès moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hébert, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Other

Orders No. 16 (inquiries), 45 (motion), 17 (inquiry), 1 (motion), 9 (inquiry), 47 and 49 (motions) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

INQUIRIES

The Honourable Senator Milne called the attention of the Senate to the legalization of industrial hemp cultivation; and to the credit due the Senate for its role in ensuring hemp would be planted in Canada this year.

After debate, The Honourable Senator DeWare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Simard, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator DeWare for the Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Simard:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology which was authorized to examine and report upon all matters relating to the future of the Canadian War Museum including, but not restricted to, its structure, budget, name, and independence, be empowered to present its final report no later than Tuesday, June 30, 1998.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. The Honourable Senator Carstairs for the Honourable Senator Bacon moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Losier-Cool:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications have power to sit at 3:30 p.m. on Tuesday next, March 24, 1998, for its study of Bill C-17, An Act to amend the Telecommunications Act and the Teleglobe Canada Reorganization and Divestiture Act, even though the Senate may then be sitting and that Rule 95(4) be suspended in relation thereto.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Reports of the International Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-489.

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1998 to 2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1998 of the Atlantic Pilotage Authority, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-490.

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1998 to 2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1998 of the Great Lakes Pilotage Authority Ltd., pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-491.

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1998 to 2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1998 of the Laurentian Pilotage Authority, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-492.

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1998 to 2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1998 of the Pacific Pilotage Authority, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-493.

Report of the Canadian Intellectual Property Office for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Patent Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-4, s. 26.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-494.

Report concerning Trade Unions registered in the Office of the Registrar General of Canada for the year 1997, pursuant to the Trade Unions Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. T-14, s. 30.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-495.

List of Commissions issued for the year 1997, pursuant to the Public Officers Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-31, s. 4.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-496.

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 1997-98 to 2001-2002 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1997-98 of the Enterprise Cape Breton Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-497.

Report of the Canada Labour Relations Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1997, pursuant to the Canada Labour Code, R.S.C. 1985, c. L-2, sbs. 121(1).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-498.

Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled "Request for Tariff Relief by Peerless Clothing Inc. regarding Certain Woven Fabrics of Virgin Wool and Fine Animal Hair", dated February 20, 1998, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S.C. 1988, c. 65, s. 54.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-499.

Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled "Review of Recommendation Regarding Woven Fabrics Known as `Armani Gabardine', dated February 26, 1998, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S.C. 1988, c. 65, s. 54.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-500.

Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled "Request for Tariff Relief by Universal Manufacturing Inc. Regarding Cotton Fabric of Yarns of Different Colours and Printed Polyester/Cotton Fabric", dated February 27, 1998, pursuant to the Canada-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act, S.C. 1988, c. 65, s. 54.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-501.

Report on the Administration of the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act for July 1 to September 30, 1996, pursuant to the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. L-1, sbs. 36(1). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-502.

Report on the Administration of the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act for October 1 to December 31, 1996, pursuant to the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. L-1, sbs. 36(1).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-503.

Report on the Administration of the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act for the fourth quarter and total fiscal year 1996-1997, pursuant to the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. L-1, sbs. 36(1).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-504.

Report on the Administration of the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act for April 1 to June 30, 1997, pursuant to the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. L-1, sbs. 36(1). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-505.

Report on the Administration of the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act for July 1 to September 30, 1997, pursuant to the Labour Adjustment Benefits Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. L-1, sbs. 36(1). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-506.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Senator Robichaud, P.C. (Saint-Louis-de-Kent):

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders

The name of the Honourable Senator Stollery substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Bryden (March 16).

The name of the Honourable Senator Sparrow substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Pearson (March 17).