49 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2000, Canada

Journals of the Senate

2nd Session, 36th Parliament

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Issue 33

Tuesday, February 29, 2000
2:00 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker

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The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Beaudoin, Berntson, Boudreau, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Christensen, Cogger, Cohen, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Doody, Fairbairn, Finestone, Finnerty, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Joyal, Kelleher, Kelly, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Mahovlich, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Pitfield, Poy, Prud'homme, Roberge, Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, Sibbeston, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Watt, Wilson

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Beaudoin, Berntson, Boudreau, *Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Christensen, Cogger, Cohen, *Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, *De Bané, DeWare, Doody, Fairbairn, Finestone, Finnerty, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Joyal, Kelleher, Kelly, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Mahovlich, *Meighen, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, *Perry (Poirier), Pitfield, Poy, Prud'homme, Roberge, *Robertson, *Robichaud, (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, Sibbeston, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Watt, Wilson

PRAYERS

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Tabling of Documents

The Honourable Senator Hays tabled the following:

(1) The Budget Speech (2) The Budget in Brief (3) Five-year Tax Reduction Plan (4) Making Canada's Economy More Innovative (5) Improving the Quality of Life of Canadians and Their Children (6) The Budget Plan 2000 (7) Overview (8) Tax Relief for Canadians (9) Our Children, Our Future (10) Notice of Ways Means motion to amend the Income Tax Act (11) Notice of Ways and Means motion to amend the Excise Tax Act (12) Notice of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Customs Act (13) Notice of a Ways and Means motion to amend the Special Import Measures Act. -Sessional Paper No. 2/36-277.

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., presented the following:

Tuesday, February 29, 2000

The Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration has the honour to present its

SIXTH REPORT

In accordance with the Second Report of the Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration Committee adopted in the Senate on December 14, 1999, your Committee recommends the adoption of the following Committee budgets for fiscal year 1999-2000.

Aboriginal Peoples Committee (Legislation)

Professional and Other Services	$ 1,800
TOTAL	$ 1,800

 

Banking, Trade and Commerce (Special Study on Financial System)

Professional and Other Services	$ 31,000
Transportation and Communications	28,170
Other Expenditures	8,000
TOTAL	$ 67,170

 

Energy, Environment and Natural Resources (Legislation)

Professional and Other Services	$ 8,000
Transportation and Communications	5,000
Other Expenditures	1,000
TOTAL	$ 14,000

 

Energy, Environment and Natural Resources (Special Study on Issues relating to Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources)

Professional and Other Services	$ 12,750
Transportation and Communications	25,450
Other Expenditures	1,500
TOTAL	$ 39,700

 

Fisheries (Study on Matters Relating to the Fishing Industry)

Professional and Other Services	$ 10,000
Transportation and Communications	55,500
Other Expenditures	3,500
TOTAL	$ 69,000

 

Fisheries (Study on Matters Relating to Fishing Industry)

Professional and Other Services	$ 300
Transportation and Communications	11,700
TOTAL	$ 12,000

 

Foreign Affairs (Study on NATO)

Professional and Other Services	$ 25,050
TOTAL	$ 25,050

 

Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration

Professional and Other Services	$ 10,000
TOTAL	$ 10,000

 

Legal and Constitutional Affairs (Legislation)

Professional and Other Services	$ 18,100
Transportation and Communications	8,510
Other Expenditures	2,550
TOTAL	$ 29,160

 

Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders

Professional and Other Services	$ 5,000
TOTAL	$ 5,000

 

Scrutiny of Regulations (Joint) (Senate Share)

Professional and Other Services	$ 29,445
Transportation and Communications	714
Other Expenditures	1,582
TOTAL	$ 31,741

 

Social Affairs, Science and Technology (Legislation)

Professional and Other Services	$ 2,500
Transportation and Communications	3,000
Other Expenditures	300
TOTAL	$ 6,000

 

Social Affairs, Science and Technology (Special Study of Life and Death)

Professional and Other Services	$ 1,350
Transportation and Communications	5,290
Other Expenditures	1,250
TOTAL	$ 7,890

 

Transport and Communications (Legislation)

Professional and Other Services	$ 19,500
Transportation and Communications	6,700
Other Expenditures	700
TOTAL	$ 26,900

 

Respectfully submitted,

WILLIAM ROMPKEY

Chair

The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Finestone, P.C., that the Report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Kirby, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, presented its Fifth Report (budget-study on the state of the health care system in Canada).

(The Report is printed as an Appendix)

The Honourable Senator Kirby moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mahovlich, that the Report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Introduction and First Reading of Government Bills

A Message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-2, An Act respecting the election of members to the House of Commons, repealing other Acts relating to elections and making consequential amendments to other Acts, to which they desire the concurrence of the Senate.

The Bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Hays moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bacon, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading on Thursday next, March 2, 2000.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Presentation of Petitions

The Honourable Senator Milne presented petitions:

Of the Genealogical Association of Nova Scotia and the Lambton Branch of the Ontario Genealogical Society concerning the Statistics Act (census records).

ORDERS OF THE DAY

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Orders No. 1 to 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Orders No. 1 to 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other

Order No. 13 (inquiry) was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Atkins calling the attention of the Senate to the financing of post-secondary education in Canada and particularly that portion of the financing that is borne by students, with a view to developing policies that will address and alleviate the debt load which post-secondary students are being burdened with in Canada.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Hays moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercier, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders No. 7, 5 (motions), 9, 6, 12, 1 (inquiries), 4 (motion) and 11 (inquiry) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

INQUIRIES

The Honourable Senator Forrestall called the attention of the Senate to the future of Canadian Defence Policy.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Hays moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercier, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Spivak moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Johnson:

That, notwithstanding the Order of the Senate adopted on December 1, 1999, the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources, in accordance with Rule 86(1)(p), which was authorized to examine such issues as may arise from time to time relating to energy, the environment and natural resources generally in Canada, be empowered to submit its final report no later than June 30, 2001.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Ordered, That Order No. 2 under ORDERS OF THE DAY, OTHER BUSINESS, Reports of Committees be again called.

Resuming debate on the consideration of the Third Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples entitled: "Forging New Relationships: Aboriginal Governance in Canada", tabled in the Senate on February 15, 2000.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Pearson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Sparrow, that further debate on consideration of the Report be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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With leave, The Senate reverted to Government Notices of Motions.

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Hays moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kolber:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday, March 1, 2000, at 1:30 p.m.;

That at 3:30 p.m. tomorrow, if the business of the Senate has not been completed, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings to adjourn the Senate;

That should a division be deferred until 5:30 p.m. tomorrow, the Speaker shall interrupt the proceedings at 3:30 p.m. to suspend the sitting until 5:30 p.m. for the taking of the deferred division; and

That all matters on the Orders of the Day and on the Notice Paper, which have not been reached, shall retain their position.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Report of the National Film Board of Canada, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the National Film Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N-8, sbs. 20(1).-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-273.

Report on the use of electronic surveillance for the year 1998, pursuant to the Criminal Code, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-46, sbs. 195(4). -Sessional Paper No. 2/36-274.

Report of the Canadian International Trade Tribunal entitled "Textile Reference Annual Status Report" for the period October 1, 1998 to September 30, 1999, pursuant to the Canadian International Trade Tribunal Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. 47 (4th Supp.), s. 42.-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-275.

Report of the Canada Foundation for Innovation, together with the Auditor's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1999, pursuant to the Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on February 18, 1997, R.S.C. 1997, c. 26, s. 29(3).-Sessional Paper No. 2/36-276.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Hays moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kolber:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce

The name of the Honourable Senator Di Nino substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Angus (February 24).

The name of the Honourable Senator Angus substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Di Nino (February 25).

Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages

The names of the Honourable Senators Losier-Cool and Robichaud (L'Acadie-Acadia) substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Finestone and Maheu (February 28).

The name of the Honourable Senator Ferretti Barth removed from the membership (February 28).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The name of the Honourable Senator Kirby substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Corbin (February 29).

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