Journals of the Senate
2 Charles III , A.D. 2024, Canada
1st Session, 44th Parliament
Issue 201 (Unrevised)
Tuesday, May 21, 2024
2 p.m.
The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Al ZaibakArnotAtaullahjanAucoinBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoyerBrazeauBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanForestFrancisGagnéGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKingstonKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMassicotteMcBeanMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOmidvarOslerOudarPatePattersonPlettPoirierProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRobinsonRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneWellsWhiteWooYussuff
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Al ZaibakArnotAtaullahjanAucoinBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoyerBrazeauBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanForestFrancisGagnéGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKingstonKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMassicotteMcBeanMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOmidvarOslerOudarPatePattersonPlettPoirierProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRobinsonRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneWellsWhiteWooYussuff
The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.
An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.
PRAYERS
Senators’ Statements
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Presenting or Tabling Reports from Committees
The Honourable Senator Omidvar, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, informed the Senate that, pursuant to the orders adopted by the Senate on February 10, 2022, and May 9, 2024, the committee deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on May 21, 2024, its twenty-first report (interim) entitled Act Now: Solutions for Temporary and Migrant Labour in Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2899S.
The Honourable Senator Omidvar moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Clement, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
First Reading of Commons Public Bills
A message was brought from the House of Commons with Bill C-355, An Act to prohibit the export by air of horses for slaughter and to make related amendments to certain Acts, to which it desires the concurrence of the Senate.
The bill was read the first time.
The Honourable Senator Dalphond moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator White, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Question Period
The Senate proceeded to Question Period.
Orders of the Day
Government Business
Bills – Third Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Bills – Second Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Yussuff, seconded by the Honourable Senator Pate, for the second reading of Bill C-50, An Act respecting accountability, transparency and engagement to support the creation of sustainable jobs for workers and economic growth in a net-zero economy.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Reports of Committees – Other
Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson:
That the following Address be presented to Her Excellency the Governor General of Canada:
To Her Excellency the Right Honourable Mary May Simon, Chancellor and Principal Companion of the Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of the Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.
MAY IT PLEASE YOUR EXCELLENCY:
We, Her Majesty’s most loyal and dutiful subjects, the Senate of Canada in Parliament assembled, beg leave to offer our humble thanks to Your Excellency for the gracious Speech which Your Excellency has addressed to both Houses of Parliament.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Martin, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Order No. 132 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Lankin, P.C.:
That the Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament be authorized to examine and report on the role of non-affiliated senators, including mechanisms to facilitate their full contribution to and participation in a modernized Senate; and
That the committee submit its final report no later than December 19, 2024.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson:
That, in accordance with rule 10-11(1), the Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs be authorized to examine the subject matter of Bill C-20, An Act establishing the Public Complaints and Review Commission and amending certain Acts and statutory instruments, introduced in the House of Commons on May 19, 2022, in advance of the said bill coming before the Senate;
That, for the purposes of this study, the committee be authorized to meet even though the Senate may then be sitting or adjourned, with the application of rules 12-18(1) and 12-18(2) being suspended in relation thereto;
That the committee submit its final report to the Senate no later than June 13, 2024; and
That the committee be authorized to deposit its report with the Clerk of the Senate if the Senate is not then sitting, provided that it then be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting following the one on which the depositing is recorded in the Journals of the Senate.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Inquiries
Orders No. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Other Business
Bills – Messages from the House of Commons
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Third Reading
Third reading of Bill S-212, An Act to amend the Criminal Records Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal a regulation, as amended.
The Honourable Senator Pate moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moodie, that the bill, as amended, be read for a third time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was negatived on the following vote:
YEAS
The Honourable Senators
BattersBlackBoehmBussonCarignanCoyleDowneHousakosMacAdamMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinPlettRichardsSeidmanSimonsSorensenTannasWells—20
NAYS
The Honourable Senators
AucoinBellemareBernardBonifaceCardozoClementCotterCuznerDalphondDeanForestGerbaGoldHarderHartlingJafferKingstonLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMassicotteMcBeanMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoodieOslerOudarPateRavaliaRossSaint-GermainVaroneWhiteWoo—36
ABSTENTIONS
The Honourable Senators
Al ZaibakRobinson—2
The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pate, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moodie, for the third reading of Bill S-212, An Act to amend the Criminal Records Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal a regulation, as amended.
Debate.
Pursuant to rule 3-3(1), the Speaker left the Chair to resume the same at 8 p.m.
The sitting resumed.
Senate Public Bills – Third Reading
The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pate, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moodie, for the third reading of Bill S-212, An Act to amend the Criminal Records Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal a regulation, as amended.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Martin, pursuant to rule 6-4(2):
That the Honourable Senator Housakos be now heard.
The question being put on the motion, it was negatived on the following vote:
YEAS
The Honourable Senators
AtaullahjanBattersCarignanForestGerbaHarderHousakosLoffredaMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinPlettRichardsSeidmanWells—16
NAYS
The Honourable Senators
Al ZaibakArnotAucoinBellemareBlackBonifaceBussonCardozoClementCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDalphondDeanFrancisGoldJafferKingstonLaBoucane-BensonMassicotteMcBeanMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoodiePateRavaliaRinguetteRobinsonRossSaint-GermainSimonsSorensenVaroneWhiteWoo—38
ABSTENTIONS
The Honourable Senators
DowneMacAdamOslerOudar—4
The Senate resumed debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pate, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moodie, for the third reading of Bill S-212, An Act to amend the Criminal Records Act, to make consequential amendments to other Acts and to repeal a regulation, as amended.
After debate,
In amendment, the Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Martin:
That Bill S-212, as amended, be not now read a third time, but that it be further amended, in clause 5, on page 3,
(a) by replacing line 5 with the following:
“(a) ten years, in the case of an offence that is prose-”;
(b) by replacing line 14 with the following:
“(b) five years, in the case of an offence that is punish-”.
The Honourable Senator McBean moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cormier, that further debate on the motion in amendment be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 2, 3 and 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills – Third Reading
Orders No. 1, 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees
Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 21 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Tannas, seconded by the Honourable Senator Verner, P.C., for the second reading of Bill S-268, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Indian Act.
After debate,
With leave of the Senate,
Further debate on the motion was adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Martin.
Orders No. 23, 24, 25 and 26 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Second reading of Bill S-277, An Act respecting a framework to strengthen Canada–Taiwan relations.
The Honourable Senator MacDonald moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos, that the bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Loffreda, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Order No. 28 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Omidvar, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dasko, for the second reading of Bill S-279, An Act to amend the Income Tax Act (data on registered charities).
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 30, 31, 32 and 33 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees – Other
Orders No. 31, 33 and 40 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Richards, seconded by the Honourable Senator Downe:
That the seventh report of the Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs, entitled The Time is Now: Granting equitable access to psychedelic-assisted therapies, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on November 8, 2023, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-23(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Veterans Affairs being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report, in consultation with the Minister of Health.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 62 and 63 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Orders No. 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12, 19, 30, 68, 77, 82, 96 and 107 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Order No. 113 was called and, pursuant to rule 4-15(2), dropped from the Order Paper and Notice Paper.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Ataullahjan, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall:
That the Senate call on the Government of Canada to recognize the erasure of Afghan women and girls from public life as gender apartheid.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Osler moved, for the Honourable Senator Patterson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ross, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 147, 172 and 181 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Inquiries
Orders No. 1, 3, 4, 5 and 8 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Boniface, calling the attention of the Senate to intimate partner violence, especially in rural areas across Canada, in response to the coroner’s inquest conducted in Renfrew County, Ontario.
After debate,
With leave of the Senate,
Further debate on the inquiry was adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Clement.
Orders No. 12, 13, 14 and 16 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, calling the attention of the Senate to the life of the late Honourable Ian Shugart, P.C.
The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Pate, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 19, 20 and 21 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
MOTIONS
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman:
That the Senate recognize the month of October, each and every year, as Korean Heritage Month, given the contributions that Korean Canadians have made to Canadian society, the deep-rooted friendship and bilateral ties between Canada and Korea, and the importance of Korean heritage and culture within the fabric of Canadian society.
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
INQUIRIES
The Honourable Senator Cardozo called the attention of the Senate to the future of the CBC/Radio-Canada.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator White moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dalphond, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 11:34 p.m., the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 2 p.m.)
DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)
Government response, dated May 10, 2024, to the seventh report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights, entitled Anti-Black Racism, Sexism and Systemic Discrimination in the Canadian Human Rights Commission, tabled in the Senate on December 11, 2023.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2898S.
(Pursuant to rule 12-23(4), the report and the response were deemed referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights.)
Twenty-first report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, entitled Act Now: Solutions for Temporary and Migrant Labour in Canada, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on May 21, 2024, pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate on February 10, 2022.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2899S.
Summaries of the Corporate Plan and Budgets for 2023-24 to 2027-28 of the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2900.
Legislative Costing Note of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled An Act respecting pharmacare, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2901.
Report of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Accelerated capital cost allowance for eligible new purpose-built rental housing, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2902.
Report of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Federal Spending to Address Homelessness, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2903.
Copy of Order in Council P.C. 2024-256, pursuant to the Farm Income Protection Act, S.C. 1991, c. 22, sbs. 12(7).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2904.
Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5
Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Commerce and the Economy
The Honourable Senator Ross replaced the Honourable Senator Deacon (Nova Scotia) (May 17, 2024).
Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources
The Honourable Senator McBean replaced the Honourable Senator Galvez (May 21, 2024).
The Honourable Senator Tannas was added to the membership (May 16, 2024).
Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade
The Honourable Senator Downe was added to the membership (May 10, 2024).
The Honourable Senator Richards was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (May 10, 2024).
Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples
The Honourable Senator McNair replaced the Honourable Senator Greenwood (May 21, 2024).
Standing Senate Committee on National Finance
The Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario) replaced the Honourable Senator MacAdam (May 21, 2024).
Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament
The Honourable Senator Yussuff replaced the Honourable Senator Omidvar (May 14, 2024).
Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology
The Honourable Senator Cuzner replaced the Honourable Senator Cordy (May 21, 2024).
Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications
The Honourable Senator Aucoin replaced the Honourable Senator Tannas (May 17, 2024).
The Honourable Senator Tannas was added to the membership (May 10, 2024).
The Honourable Senator Richards was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (May 10, 2024).