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3 Charles III , A.D. 2024, Canada

1st Session, 44th Parliament

Issue 240 (Unrevised)

Thursday, November 21, 2024
2 p.m.

The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAl ZaibakAndersonArnotAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBernardBlackBoehmBoudreauBoyerBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)DowneDuncanForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosKingstonKlyneLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMassicotteMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieMoreauMuggliOslerPatePattersonPetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSeniorSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneVernerWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWooYouanceYussuff

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAl ZaibakAndersonArnotAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBernardBlackBoehmBoudreauBoyerBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)DowneDuncanForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosKingstonKlyneLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMassicotteMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieMoreauMuggliOslerPatePattersonPetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSeniorSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneVernerWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWooYouanceYussuff

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26 and 27 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 1, 132, 167 and 172 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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The Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson:

That, in accordance with rule 10-11(1), the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology be authorized to examine the subject matter of Bill C-71, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act (2024), introduced in the House of Commons on May 23, 2024, in advance of the said bill coming before the Senate; and

That the committee submit its final report to the Senate no later than December 10, 2024.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, November 26, 2024, at 2 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Inquiries

Orders No. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Ordered, That Order No. 13 under OTHER BUSINESS, Inquiries, be brought forward.

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Klyne, calling the attention of the Senate to the ongoing business and economic contributions made by Indigenous businesses to Canada’s economy.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Senate Public Bills – Third Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pate, seconded by the Honourable Senator Boehm, for the third reading of Bill S-230, An Act to amend the Corrections and Conditional Release Act.

After debate,

With leave of the Senate,

Further debate on the motion was adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Pate.

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Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Third Reading

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Boehm, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moodie, for the adoption of the fifteenth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade (Bill C-282, An Act to amend the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Act (supply management), with an amendment and observations), presented in the Senate on November 7, 2024.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator White moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Klyne, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett, for the second reading of Bill S-221, An Act to amend the Governor General’s Act (retiring annuity and other benefits).

Ordered: That further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C.

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Orders No. 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator White, for the second reading of Bill S-271, An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act.

Ordered: That further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator McPhedran.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator White, for the second reading of Bill S-272, An Act to amend the Director of Public Prosecutions Act.

Ordered: That further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator McPhedran.

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Orders No. 20, 21, 22, 23 and 24 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Ordered: That consideration of Order No. 25 be postponed until the next sitting of the Senate.

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Second reading of Bill S-285, An Act to amend the Canada Business Corporations Act (purpose of a corporation).

The Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Coyle, that the bill be read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moncion, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 27, 28, 29, 30 and 31 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne, seconded by the Honourable Senator Boehm, for the second reading of Bill C-332, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (coercive control of intimate partner).

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Batters, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Dalphond, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cordy, for the second reading of Bill C-355, An Act to prohibit the export by air of horses for slaughter and to make related amendments to certain Acts.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 31, 33, 40, 62, 63, 72, 73, 74 and 75 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12, 19, 30 and 77 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator Campbell:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples be authorized to examine and report on the misrepresentation of Indigenous ancestry, inadequate self-identification standards and the profound effects that such identity fraud has on further marginalizing Indigenous people, in particular Indigenous women; and

That the committee submit its final report no later than December 31, 2023.

After debate,

In amendment, the Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett:

That the motion be not now adopted, but that it be amended:

1.by deleting the word “and” at the end of the first paragraph and adding the following new paragraph immediately after it:

“That the committee invite the Honourable Randy Boissonnault, P.C., M.P., to appear as the first witness in relation to this study; and”; and

2.by substituting the words “December 31, 2023” with the words “June 15, 2025”.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Moncion moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Pate, that further debate on the motion in amendment be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 107, 147, 172, 201, 202, 216 and 219 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 1 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Coyle, calling the attention of the Senate to the importance of finding solutions to transition Canada’s society, economy and resource use in pursuit of a fair, prosperous, sustainable and peaceful net-zero emissions future for our country and the planet.

Ordered: That further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Clement.

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Orders No. 5, 8, 12 and 14 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Black, calling the attention of the Senate to the ongoing concerns with respect to Canadian agricultural, wetland, and forest land reallotments, as well as potential food, economic, and social insecurities as a result of reduced capacity for farming, pasture, forestry, and food production both domestically and internationally.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 17, 18, 20 and 21 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Cardozo, calling the attention of the Senate to the future of the CBC/Radio-Canada.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator White moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 26 and 28 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Cormier, calling the attention of the Senate to the alarming rise in sexually transmitted and blood-borne infections in Canada, including HIV/AIDS.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Clement, calling the attention of the Senate to the career of the Honourable Ratna Omidvar.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Clement moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator White, calling the attention of the Senate to the career of the Honourable Jane Cordy.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator White moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 5:22 p.m., the Senate was continued until Tuesday, November 26, 2024, at 2 p.m.)

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The Honourable Senator Muggli was added to the membership (November 21, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Klyne was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (November 21, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Klyne replaced the Honourable Senator Muggli (November 21, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Muggli replaced the Honourable Senator Klyne (November 20, 2024).

Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

The Honourable Senator Ross replaced the Honourable Senator Greene (November 21, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Busson replaced the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario) (November 21, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Boniface replaced the Honourable Senator Busson (November 21, 2024).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Tannas replaced the Honourable Senator Aucoin (November 21, 2024).

The Honourable Senator McNair replaced the Honourable Senator Oudar (November 21, 2024).

Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament

The Honourable Senator Prosper replaced the Honourable Senator Black (November 21, 2024).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Muggli was added to the membership (November 21, 2024).

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