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QUESTION PERIOD — Ministry of Public Safety

Bail Reform

September 19, 2024


Hon. Yonah Martin (Deputy Leader of the Opposition)

Minister, in July, every provincial premier signed a letter asking your government to thoroughly review its weak bail reform law: Bill C-48. Their plea was sparked by the murder of 30-year-old Tori Dunn who was stabbed to death in her home in Surrey, B.C. Her alleged killer had been released from jail just days before, despite his long criminal history and the fact that he was facing other charges at the time of her murder.

Minister, why did you and the Minister of Justice dismiss this reasonable request from the premiers so quickly?

Hon. Dominic LeBlanc, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Safety, Democratic Institutions and Intergovernmental Affairs [ + ]

Senator, I speak with provincial premiers often in my capacity as the Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs. As I said, Premier Ford and I discussed this issue as recently as Friday, which was 10 days ago.

We had worked collaboratively following the Council of the Federation meeting; you are referring to the Council of the Federation meeting that was held this July. Over a year ago, the Council of the Federation also asked to work with us on important amendments around bail legislation, which we did collaboratively with the provincial governments. It was a positive exercise in the life of this Parliament.

We’re always looking at ways to ensure that we have the right balance between respecting the constitutional rights of persons to be presumed innocent until proven guilty, while recognizing the important public safety requirement of keeping persons incarcerated before their trial — those decisions, as you know, are largely in the hands of provincially appointed judges. It can be reviewed by superior courts. There is a process in place. Provincial prosecutors can appeal decisions that they don’t agree with.

It is not strictly a straight line between a legislative instrument. It is a very important issue for public safety. I share that concern, and I work with the premiers and others to ensure we have the right balance.

An answer to a written question in the other place showed that 256 people were charged with homicide while out on bail or another form of release in 2022. This equates to 29% of all homicides committed that year.

Minister, what more will it take before your government takes seriously the consequences of your policies? Will you end catch-and-release bail?

Mr. LeBlanc [ + ]

Again, senator, that is a phrase that your leader’s office, or somebody, produces. Catch-and-release is something that — as senators from my province of New Brunswick would know — is usually applied to salmon angling. That would be the appropriate use for that phrase.

These decisions are made by independent judges. Prosecutors are the ones who object to the release of certain individuals. There is a judicial process that follows. There are appeal processes. Parliament has a responsibility to ensure that the laws with respect to repeat violent offenders are appropriate. I am happy to continue to work with parliamentarians to ensure that we have that part of the equation right.

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