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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Finance

Second Session, Thirty-ninth Parliament, 2007

Chair: The Honourable JOSEPH A. DAY

Tuesday, December 11, 2007
Wednesday, December 12, 2007
Thursday, December 13, 2007

Issue No. 3

Fifth meeting on:
The 2007-08 Estimates

First (final) meeting on:
Bill S-215, An Act to protect heritage lighthouses

First and second (final) meetings on:
Subject-matter of Bill C-28, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 19, 2007
and to implement certain provisions of the economic statement tabled in Parliament on October 30, 2007

(Bill S-215)
(Subject-matter of Bill C-28)


Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Ted Menzies, M.P., Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance


Tuesday, December 11, 2007

Privy Council Office:

Cathy Hawara, Director, Appointments and Selection Process;

Marc O'Sullivan, Acting Assistant Secretary to the Cabinet, Senior Personnel and Special Projects.

Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat:

Joe Wild, Executive Director, Strategic Policy, Corporate Priorities and Planning.

Wednesday, December 12, 2007

Bill S-215

Senate of Canada:

The Honourable Senator Pat Carney, P.C., sponsor of the bill.

Parks Canada:

Doug Tapley, Manager, Cabinet Affairs;

Patricia E. Kell, Director, Policy and Government Relations.

Fisheries and Oceans Canada:

David Burden, Director, Divestiture;

Michael Bartlett, Legal Counsel, Legal Services Unit.

Subject-matter of Bill C-28

Department of Finance Canada:

Frank Vermaeten, General Director, Assistant Deputy Minister`s Office, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch;

Derek Hermanutz, Senior Chief, Federal-Provincial Relations Division, Federal-Provincial and Social Policy Branch;

Tom McGirr, Chief, Federal-Provincial Relations Division, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch;

Gerard Lalonde, Director, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch;

Brian Ernewein, General Director, Senior Assistant Deputy Minister's Office, Tax Policy Branch;

Martine Bérubé, Chief, Sectoral Policy Analysis, Agriculture and Fisheries, Economic Development and Corporate Finance;

Geoff Trueman, Chief, Sales Tax Division, Air Travelers Security Charge, Tax Policy Branch;

Kei Moray, Senior Chief, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch;

Sandra Dunn, Chief, Financial Sector Stability, Financial Sector Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch;

Pierre Mercille, Chief, Sales Tax Division, GST Legislation;

Francis Bilodeau, Officer, Sectoral Policy Analysis, Economic Development and Corporate Finance.

Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions Canada:

John Grace, Specialist, Pension Policy, Private Pension Plans Division, Regulation Sector.

Department of Justice Canada:

Richard Graw, Legal Counsel.

Human Resources and Social Development Canada:

Caroline Weber, Director General, Office of Disability Issues;

James Bandola, Policy Analyst, Operational Policy and Legislation.

Thursday, December 13, 2007

As individuals (by video conference):

Wade Locke, Professor, Memorial University;

Paul Hobson, Professor, Acadia University.

Canadian Federation of Agriculture:

Bob Friesen, President.

National Anti-Poverty Organization (NAPO)

Rob Rainer, Executive Director.


The Honourable Joseph A. Day, Chair

The Honourable Terry Stratton, Deputy Chair


The Honourable Senators:

Biron, Chaput, Cowan, De Bané, P.C., Di Nino, Eggleton, P.C., *Hervieux-Payette, P.C., (or Tardif), *LeBreton, P.C., (or Comeau), Mitchell, Murray, P.C., Nancy Ruth, Ringuette

*Ex officio members

(Quorum 4)

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