Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence
Issue 3 - Minutes of Proceedings
OTTAWA, Monday, March 30, 2009
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[English]
The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 3:07 p.m., in room 7, Victoria Building, the chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.
Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Banks, Kenny, Lang, Manning, Martin, Mitchell, Moore, Nolin, Tkachuk, Wallin and Zimmer (11).
In attendance: Allison Goody and Mark Mahabir, Analysts, and Marcus Pistor, Acting Chief, Parliamentary Information and Research Service, Library of Parliament.
Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the Senate on Tuesday, March 3, 2009, the committee began its study on Bill S-2, An Act to amend the Customs Act.
APPEARING:
The Honourable Peter Van Loan, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Safety.
WITNESSES:
Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada:
Carman Baggaley, Strategic Policy Advisor.
Canadian Airports Council:
Jim Facette, President and Chief Executive Officer.
Canada Border Services Agency:
Deirdre Kerr-Perrott, Vice-President, Innovation, Science and Technology;
Kristine Allen, Senior Counsel, Legal Services;
Caroline Xavier, Director General, Policy and Program Development Directorate.
Canadian Trucking Alliance:
David Bradley, Chief Executive Officer.
Canadian Manufacturers & Exporters:
Jean Michel Laurin, Vice-President, Global Business Policy.
National Defence:
General Walt Natynczyk, Chief of Defence Staff, Canadian Forces;
Lieutenant-Commander J.R. Michel Thibault, Aide-de-Camp to Gen. Natynczyk.
As an individual:
Major-General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald.
Pursuant to rule 92(2)(e), the committee commenced in camera to consider its draft agenda.
It was agreed that senators' staff be permitted to remain in the room for the in camera portions of today's meeting.
It was agreed that the creation of a subcommittee on veterans affairs be discussed at the next meeting, to be held at 1p.m. on Wednesday, April 1, 2009.
At 3:28 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.
At 3:34 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting, in public, in room 2, Victoria Building.
The chair made opening remarks.
Mr. Baggaley, Mr. Facette and Ms. Kerr-Perrott made statements and, together with Ms. Xavier, answered questions.
At 5:07 p.m., the committee suspended.
At 5:15 p.m., the committee resumed.
Mr. Bradley and Mr. Laurin made statements and answered questions.
The witnesses were excused.
The chair and General Natynczyk made statements.
General Natynczyk presented Major-General (Ret'd) McDonald with the Canadian Forces Medallion for Distinguished Service.
Major-General McDonald made a statement.
At 6:30 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.
At 7:18 p.m., the committee resumed.
Minister Van Loan made a statement and together with Ms. Kerr-Perrot and Ms. Allen, answered questions.
At 8:50 p.m., the committee suspended.
At 8:53 p.m., the committee resumed.
The Honourable Senator Tkachuk moved:
That the following legislative budget application for the committee for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2009 be approved for submission to the Standing Senate Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration:
Professional and other services $ 1,200
TOTAL $ 1,200
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Honourable Senator Manning moved:
That the following special study budget application for the committee's study on the national security policy of Canada, for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2009 be approved for submission to the Standing Senate Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration:
Professional and other services $ 1,600
TOTAL $ 1,600
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
It was agreed that the committee proceed to clause-by-clause consideration of Bill S-2, An Act to amend the Customs Act.
It was agreed that the title stand postponed.
It was agreed that clause 1 carry.
It was agreed that clause 2 carry.
It was agreed that clause 3 carry.
It was agreed that clause 4 carry.
It was agreed that clause 5 carry.
It was agreed that clause 6 carry.
It was agreed that clause 7 carry.
It was agreed that clause 8 carry.
It was agreed that clause 9 carry.
It was agreed that clause 10 carry.
It was agreed that clause 11 carry.
It was agreed that clause 12 carry.
It was agreed that clause 13 carry.
It was agreed that clause 14 carry.
It was agreed that clause 15 carry.
It was agreed that clause 16 carry.
The chair asked whether clause 17 shall carry.
The Honourable Senator Banks moved that Bill S-2 be amended in clause 17, on page 7, by renumbering subsection 164.1(1) as section 164.1 and by deleting lines 27 to 29.
The question being put on the motion in amendment, it was adopted.
It was agreed that clause 17, as amended, carry.
It was agreed that the title carry.
It was agreed that the bill, as amended, carry.
It was agreed that the chair report the bill, as amended, to the Senate at the earliest opportunity.
At 9:00 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the chair.
ATTEST:
OTTAWA, Wednesday, April 1, 2009
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[English]
The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met in camera this day at 1:01 p.m., in room 172-E, Center Block, the chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.
Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Banks, Day, Kenny, Manning, Meighen, Moore, Tkachuk, Wallin and Zimmer (9).
Other senators present: The Honourable Senators Mitchell and Nolin (2).
In attendance: Allison Goody, Analyst, and Marcus Pistor, Acting Chief, Parliamentary Information and Research Service, Library of Parliament.
Pursuant to rule 92(2)(e), the committee commenced in camera to consider its draft agenda.
It was agreed that staff be permitted to remain in the room for the in camera portions of today's meeting.
It was moved that the chair be authorized to move a motion in the Senate to initiate an amendment to the Rules of the Senate to transfer matters relating to veterans affairs from this committee to a new standing committee dedicated to those matters.
It was moved that the motion be amended by adding the words ``and that until the transfer is complete, that a subcommittee on veterans affairs be constituted so that it can begin its work'' at the end of the motion.
Debate arose on the motion in amendment.
At 1:30 p.m., the committee adjourned.
ATTEST:
Shaila Anwar
Clerk of the Committee