Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue 10 - Minutes of Proceedings

OTTAWA, Monday, October 26, 2009
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 3:05 p.m., in room 705, Victoria Building, the chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Banks, Comeau, Day, Kenny, Manning, Moore, Nolin, Tkachuk, Wallin, and Zimmer (10).

Other senator present: The Honourable Senator Mitchell (1).

In attendance: Holly Porteous and Martin Auger, Analysts, Parliamentary Information and Research Service, Library of Parliament; Barry Denofsky, National Security Advisor; and Major-General (ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Advisor.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, March 5, 2009, the committee continued its study on the national security policy of Canada. (For complete text of the order of reference, see proceedings of the committee, Issue No. 2)

The Honourable Senator Banks moved:

That pursuant to rule 92 (2)(f), the committee proceed in camera to consider a draft report;

That senators' staff be permitted to remain in the room during the in camera portion of the meeting; and

That the committee allow the transcription of the in camera portions of today's meeting, that one copy be kept in the office of the clerk of the committee for consultation by committee members and that the transcript be destroyed by the clerk at the end of this parliamentary session.

Debate arose thereon.

The Honourable Senator Moore moved:

That the motion be amended after the words ``in camera portion of the meeting'' to add the following:

``and that all electronic devices be turned to the ``off'' position, with the exception of the committee clerk.''

The question being put on the motion in amendment, it was adopted, on division.

The question being put on the motion as amended, it was adopted, on division.

At 3:28 p.m., pursuant to rule 92 (2)(f), the committee proceeded in camera to consider a draft report.

At 5:29 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 5:42 p.m., the committee resumed.

At 7:58 p.m, it was moved:

That the committee do now adjourn to the call of the chair.

After debate, the motion was adopted, on division.

At 8:00 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the chair.

ATTEST:

OTTAWA, Monday, November 16, 2009
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 1:41 p.m., in room 705, Victoria Building, the chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Banks, Kenny, Lang, Manning, Meighan, Mitchell, Moore, Tkachuk, Wallin and Zimmer (10).

In attendance: Holly Porteous and Martin Auger, Analysts, Parliamentary Information and Research Service, Library of Parliament; Dan Turner, writer; and Major-General (ret`d) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Advisor.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

The Honourable Senator Tkachuk reported to the committee that the Senate adopted the following motion on Wednesday November 3, 2009:

That it be an instruction to the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence that it adopt a motion to provide that its Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure may only convene provided that it meets its quorum of three members and that one member from each recognized party is present.(See Journals of the Senate, November 3, 2009)

It was agreed that the committee do now recognize the motion adopted in the Senate and that the Subcommittee on Agenda and Proceedure meet in accordance with the motion.

The Honourable Senator Wallin reported to the committee that pursuant to the decision agreed to at the committee meeting held on May 25, 2009, to split the funds in the budget category entitled ``Promotion of Reports, Meetings and Other Matters related to Committee Business'' between both parties, that approximately $4,000 in funds was expended by the deputy chair, for a trip to Regina on October 29-November 1, 2009, to visit the RCMP Depot, and that the amount is to be certified as payable from the committee's budget.

The Honourable Senator Wallin reported to the committee that pursuant to the decision agreed to at the committee meeting held on May 25, 2009, to split the funds in the budget category entitled ``Promotion of Reports, Meetings and Other Matters related to Committee Business'' between both parties, that approximately $17, 000 in funds was expended by the deputy chair, for a trip to Afghanistan on November 10-13 , 2009, for the purpose of attending Remembrance Day ceremonies with Canadian troops stationed in Kandahar, and that the amount is to be certified as payable from the committee's budget.

The Honourable Senator Moore moved:

That pursuant to rule 92 (2)(f), the committee proceed in camera to consider a draft report;

That senators' staff be permitted to remain in the room during the in camera portion of the meeting; and that all electronic devices be turned to the ``off'' position, with the exception of the committee clerk; and

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

At 2:15 p.m., pursuant to rule 92 (2)(f), the committee proceeded in camera to consider a draft report.

At 3:12 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 4:33 p.m., the committee resumed.

At 6:06 p.m., the Honourable Senator Lang replaced the Honourable Senator Wallin as a member of the committee.

At 6:10 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 6:26 p.m., the committee resumed.

At 7:59 p.m, the committee adjourned to the call of the chair.

ATTEST:

OTTAWA, Monday, November 23, 2009
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 4:26 p.m., in room 705, Victoria Building, the chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Banks, Day, Kenny, Lang, Manning, Meighan, Mitchell, Moore, Tkachuk, and Wallin (10).

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

The Honourable Senator Banks moved:

That pursuant to rule 92 (2)(f), the committee proceed in camera to consider a draft report;

That senators' staff be permitted to remain in the room during the in camera portion of the meeting and that all electronic devices be turned to the ``off'' position, with the exception of the committee clerk; and

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

At 4:34 p.m., pursuant to rule 92 (2)(f), the committee proceeded in camera to consider a draft report.

At 6:02 the Honourable Senator Lang replaced the Honourable Senator Meighen as a member of the committee.

At 6:08 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 6:24 p.m., the committee resumed.

At 7:06 p.m, the committee adjourned to the call of the chair.

ATTEST:

Shaila Anwar

Clerk of the Committee

Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence

Issue 10 - Minutes of Proceedings

Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence