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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue No. 16 - Minutes of Proceedings - June 12, 2017


OTTAWA, Monday, June 12, 2017
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 1 p.m., in room 2, Victoria Building, the deputy chair, the Honourable Mobina S. B. Jaffer, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Boisvenu, Boniface, Dagenais, Jaffer, Harder, P.C., Kenny, Lankin, P.C., McIntyre, McPhedran, Moncion, Saint-Germain and White (12).

Other senators present: The Honourable Senators Griffin and Maltais (2).

In attendance: Mireille LaForge, Committees Directorate.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the Senate on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, the committee continued its examination of Bill C-22, An Act to establish the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and to make consequential amendments to certain Acts. (For complete text of the order of reference, see proceedings of the committee, Issue No. 15.)

WITNESSES:

As individuals:

The Honourable Tony Clement, P.C., M.P., Official Opposition critic to the Bill;

Derek Lee, former Member of Parliament;

Craig Forcese, Professor, Faculty of Law, University of Ottawa;

Kent Roach, Professor, Prichard-Wilson Chair in Law and Public Policy, Faculty of Law, University of Toronto.

Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the RCMP:

Ian McPhail, Chair;

Richard Evans, Senior Director, Operations.

Office of the Communications Security Establishment Commissioner:

The Honourable Jean-Pierre Plouffe, Commissioner;

J. William Galbraith, Executive Director.

Security Intelligence Review Committee:

Michael Doucet, Executive Director;

Darryl Sitka, Research Director.

As individuals:

Ryan Alford, Assistant Professor, Bora Laskin Faculty of Law, Lakehead University (by video conference);

Craig Scott, Professor of Law, Osgoode Hall Law School (by video conference);

Christian Leuprecht, Professor, Department of Political Science and Economics, Royal Military College of Canada;

Hayley McNorton, Research Assistant, Queen's University.

International Civil Liberties Monitoring Group:

Tim McSorley, National Coordinator.

The deputy chair made a statement.

Mr. Clement made a statement and answered questions.

At 1:52 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 1:54 p.m., the committee resumed.

Mr. Lee made a statement and answered questions.

At 2:30 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 2:47 p.m., the committee resumed.

Mr. Forcese and Mr. Roach each made a statement and together answered questions.

At 3:46 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 3:50 p.m., the committee resumed.

Mr. McPhail, Mr. Plouffe and Mr. Doucet each made a statement and, together with Mr. Evans, Mr. Galbraith and Mr. Sitka, answered questions.

At 5:19 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 5:39 p.m., the committee resumed.

Mr. Scott and Mr. Leuprecht each made a statement and, together with Ms. McNorton, answered questions.

At 6:32 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 6:35 p.m., the committee resumed.

Mr. McSorley and Mr. Alford each made a statement and, together answered questions.

At 7:04 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 7:06 p.m., the committee, pursuant to rule 12-16(1)(d), resumed in camera to consider a draft agenda (future business).

At 7:32 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the chair.

ATTEST:

Adam Thompson

Clerk of the Committee

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