47 Elizabeth II, A.D. 1998, Canada

Journals of the Senate

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Issue 70

Tuesday, June 9, 1998
2:00 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker

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The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Butts, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Cochrane, Cohen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gigantès, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hébert, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Johnstone, Joyal, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Lavoie-Roux, Lawson, LeBreton, Lewis, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mercier, Molgat, Moore, Nolin, Pearson, Pépin, Perrault, Phillips, Pitfield, Poulin, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robichaud, (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud, (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Rompkey, Rossiter, St. Germain, Simard, Stewart, Stratton, Taylor, Watt, Wood

PRAYERS

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Ghitter, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources, presented its Third Report (Bill C-31, An Act respecting Canada Lands Surveyors) without amendment.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cook, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. The Honourable Senator Watt, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, presented its Fourth Report (Bill C-6, An Act to provide for an integrated system of land and water management in the Mackenzie Valley, to establish certain boards for that purpose and to make consequential amendments to other Acts) without amendment.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Watt, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Watt, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, presented its Fifth Report (Bill C-39, An Act to amend the Nunavut Act and the Constitution Act, 1867) without amendment.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Watt, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Government Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Grafstein:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until tomorrow, Wednesday, June 10, 1998, at 1:30 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Tabling of Reports from Inter-Parliamentary Delegations

The Honourable Senator Beaudoin tabled the following:

Report of the Canadian Section of the Canada-France Inter-Parliamentary Association respecting its participation at the 28th Annual Meeting held in Paris, France from March 1 to 8, 1998.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-636. The Honourable Senator Comeau tabled the following:

Report of the Canadian Group of the Inter-Parliamentary Union regarding its participation at the 99th Inter-Parliamentary Conference, held at Windhoek, Namibia, from April 5 to 11, 1998.-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-637.

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With leave, The Senate reverted to SENATORS' STATEMENTS. An Honourable Senator made a statement.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Third reading of Bill S-11, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act in order to add social condition as a prohibited ground of discrimination.

The Honourable Senator Cohen moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Nolin, that the Bill be read the third time.

After debate, The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the third time and passed.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate have passed this Bill to which they desire their concurrence. Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting. Third reading of Bill S-13, An Act to incorporate and to establish an industry levy to provide for the Canadian Tobacco Industry Community Responsibility Foundation.

The Honourable Senator Kenny moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Nolin, that the Bill be read the third time.

After debate, In amendment, the Honourable Senator Nolin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kenny, that the Bill be not now read a third time but that it be amended on pages 17 to 23 by deleting Part III.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Lewis, that further debate on the motion in amendment be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Order No. 4 was called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton, seconded by the Honourable Senator Balfour, for the second reading of Bill S-15, An Act respecting the declaration of royal assent by the Governor General in the Queen's name to bills passed by the Houses of Parliament.

After debate, The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kinsella, that the Bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Commons Public Bills

Third reading of Bill C-411, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act.

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C. (Saint-Louis- de-Kent) moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Johnstone, that the Bill be read the third time.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the third time and passed.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate have passed this Bill, without amendment. Third reading of Bill C-410, An Act to change the name of certain electoral districts, as amended.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C. (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), that the Bill, as amended, be read the third time.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill, as amended, was then read the third time and passed.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate have passed this Bill, with certain amendments, to which they desire their concurrence.

Reports of Committees

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Maheu, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ferretti Barth, for the adoption of the Fifth Report of the Standing Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders (attendance in the Senate), presented in the Senate on June 3, 1998.

After debate, The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Consideration of the Twentieth Report of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration (budget-Foreign Affairs Committee), presented in the Senate on June 4, 1998.

The Honourable Senator Nolin for the Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LeBreton, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Consideration of the Nineteenth Report of Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration (budgets of certain Committees), presented in the Senate on May 14, 1998.

The Honourable Senator Nolin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Lavoie-Roux, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Order No. 4 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other

Order No. 73 (motion) was called and postponed until the next sitting. Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Ghitter calling the attention of the Senate to the concerns expressed by Albertans with regard to the Senate as an institution: (a) its effectiveness, usefulness and viability; (b) alternative means by which to select members of the Senate; (c) the nature of its regional representation, particularly a desire to see equal numbers of Senators representing each province; (d) the length of term of office; (e) the role which a revised Senate might take at a national level; and (f) the powers which would be appropriate for it to exercise in harmony with the House of Commons.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cook, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton, seconded by the Honourable Senator DeWare:

That the Senate endorses and supports the findings and recommendations of the Commission of Inquiry on the Blood System in Canada;

That the Senate for humanitarian reasons urges the Government of Canada and the Governments of the Provinces and of the Territories to comply with these findings and recommendations; and

That a copy of this motion be forwarded to each federal, provincial and territorial Minister of Health,

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator DeWare, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kinsella, that the motion be not now adopted, but that it be amended in paragraph two by removing and replacing the words "to comply with these findings and recommendations" with the following:

"to not exclude in determining compensation any person who has contracted Hepatitis C from blood components or blood products.",

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Berntson, seconded by the Honourable Senator DeWare, that the motion be not now adopted, but that it be further amended in paragraph one by removing the words "the findings and recommendations" and replacing them with "Recommendation 1"; and adding after the words "in Canada", "and recognises the role of the Government of Canada in contributing to its implementation".

After debate, The Honourable Senator Gigantès moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Callbeck, that further debate on the motion in amendment be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Orders No. 30, 27 (inquiries), 45 (motion), 23, 32 (inquiries), 1 (motion) and 21 (inquiry) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Report of the Auditor General of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-630.

Reports of the Status of Women Canada required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-631.

Summaries of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 1998-99 of the Cape Breton Development Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-632.

Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on March 31, 1998, between Canada, British Columbia and the Huu-ay-aht, Hupacasath, Tseshaht and Uchucklesaht First Nations, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-633.

Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on March 31, 1998, between Canada, British Columbia and the Lax Kw'alaams Indian Band, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-634.

Agreement for RCMP Policing Services made on April 22, 1998, between Canada, Saskatchewan, and the Cote, Key and Keeseekoose First Nations, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5). -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-635.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fairbairn, P.C.:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples

The name of the Honourable Senator Fairbairn substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Forest (June 8).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The names of the Honourable Senators Joyal and Bryden substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Ferretti Barth and Johnstone (June 8).

The names of the Honourable Senators Ferretti Barth and Grafstein substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Forest and Ferretti Barth (June 9).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The names of the Honourable Senators DeWare and Callbeck substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Lavoie-Roux and Cools (June 8).

The names of the Honourable Senators Kinsella, Gigantès, Phillips and Andreychuk substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Phillips, Stollery, Kinsella and LeBreton (June 9).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The name of the Honourable Senator Butts substituted for that of the Honourable Senator De Bané (June 9).

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