47 Elizabeth II, A.D. 1998, Canada

Journals of the Senate

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Issue 79

Thursday, September 24, 1998
2:00 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker

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The Members convened were: 

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Balfour, Beaudoin, Bryden, Buchanan, Butts, Callbeck, Carney, Carstairs, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hays, Johnson, Johnstone, Joyal, Kelleher, Kelly, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lavoie-Roux, LeBreton, Lewis, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Maloney, Meighen, Mercier, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Perrault, Pitfield, Poulin (Charette), Rivest, Roberge, Robertson, Robichaud , (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud , (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, Simard, Sparrow, Stewart, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Whelan, Wilson

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Balfour, Beaudoin, *Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Butts, Callbeck, Carney, Carstairs, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Grimard, Gustafson, Hays, Johnson, Johnstone, Joyal, Kelleher, Kelly, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lavoie-Roux, LeBreton, Lewis, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Maloney, Meighen, Mercier, *Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Perrault, Pitfield, Poulin (Charette), Rivest, Roberge, Robertson, Robichaud , (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud , (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, Simard, Sparrow, Stewart, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Whelan, Wilson

PRAYERS Ordered, That the Address of His Excellency Nelson Mandela, President of the Republic of South Africa, delivered to Members of both Houses of Parliament earlier this day, together with the introductory speech by the Right Honourable the Prime Minister of Canada and the speeches delivered by the Speaker of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Commons, be printed as an Appendix to the Debates of the Senate of this day.

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Introduction and First Reading of Government Bills

A Message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-20, An Act to amend the Competition Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts, to which they desire the concurrence of the Senate.

The Bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Austin, P.C., that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading on Tuesday next, September 29, 1998.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Di Nino, seconded by the Honourable Senator DeWare, for the third reading of Bill S-10, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act,

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Maheu, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ferretti Barth, that the Bill be not now read the third time, but that it be amended in clause 1, on page 1, by replacing line 8 with the following:

"ture or other reading material, including any pictorial representation or other expressive media approved for use by an educational institution in its programs, but not including any material that

(a) contains an age restriction imposed by law on its sale, purchase or viewing;

(b) is either obscene within the meaning of section 163 of the Criminal Code, or of a pornographic nature; or

(c) contains more than five percent advertising.".

And on the sub-amendment of the Honourable Senator Di Nino, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kinsella, that the motion in amendment be amended

(a) by adding the word "or" after paragraph (a);

(b) by deleting the word "or" after paragraph (b); and

(c) by deleting paragraph (c).

After debate, In amendment, the Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Pépin:

That the bill be not now read the third time, but that it be referred back to the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, together with the proposed amendments, for further consideration.

After debate, The question being put on the motion in amendment, it was adopted. Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Private Bills

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting. Consideration of the Twenty-fourth Report of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration (Committee budgets), presented in the Senate on September 22, 1998.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gill, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Orders No. 3 to 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other

Orders No. 35, 15, 27 (inquiries), 45 (motion), 23, 32 (inquiries), 1 (motion), 34 and 37 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

INQUIRIES

The Honourable Senator Losier-Cool called the attention of the Senate to population, education and health, particularly for young girls and women in many developing countries.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Andreychuk moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Beaudoin, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Kirby moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Maloney:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce, have power to meet while the Senate is sitting between September 29, 1998 and November 30, 1998 for the purpose of its study on the present state of the financial system in Canada and specifically on the Report of the Task Force on the Future of the Canadian Financial Services Sector, and that Rule 95(4) be suspended in relation thereto.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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With leave, The Senate reverted to Government Notices of Motions.

With leave of the Senate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercier:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday next, September 29, 1998, at 2:00 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Document entitled "Canadian Position with Respect to Conventions and Recommendations adopted at the 83rd and 84th (Maritime) Sessions of the International Labour Conference". -Sessional Paper No. 1/36-784.

Reports of the Bank of Canada required by the Access to Information Act and the Privacy Act for the period ended March 31, 1998, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 72(2) and the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-785.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Fraser:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs

The name of the Honourable Senator Andreychuk substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Grimard (June 22).

Standing Joint Committee on the Library of Parliament

The name of the Honourable Senator Atkins substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Grimard (June 22).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The name of the Honourable Senator St. Germain substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Rivest (June 22).

Special Committee of the Senate on Transportation Safety

The name of the Honourable Senator Spivak substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Johnson (September 23).

Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources

The name of the Honourable Senator Gustafson substituted for that of the Honourable Senator St. Germain (September 23).

Standing Committee on Privileges, Standing Rules and Orders

The name of the Honourable Senator DeWare removed from the membership (September 23).

The name of the Honourable Senator Bacon added to the membership (September 24).

Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages

The name of the Honourable Senator Fraser substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Joyal (September 24).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The name of the Honourable Senator Milne substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Butts (September 24).

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