47 Elizabeth II, A.D. 1998, Canada

Journals of the Senate

---

Issue 93

Wednesday, November 18, 1998
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable Gildas L. Molgat, Speaker

---

The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Bryden, Butts, Callbeck, Carstairs, Cohen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, De Bané, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Johnstone, Joyal, Kelly, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lawson, LeBreton, Lynch-Staunton, Maloney, Meighen, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Perrault, Phillips, Poy, Prud'homme, Robichaud , (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud , (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, St. Germain, Simard, Sparrow, Stewart, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Whelan, Wilson

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, *Austin, *Bacon, Beaudoin, Berntson, Bolduc, Bryden, *Buchanan, Butts, Callbeck, *Carney, Carstairs, *Chalifoux, Cohen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, De Bané, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Eyton, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Gauthier, Ghitter, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Johnson, Johnstone, Joyal, Kelly, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lawson, LeBreton, Lynch-Staunton, *Maheu, Maloney, Meighen, Mercier, Milne, Molgat, Moore, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Perrault, Phillips, *Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Robichaud , (L'Acadie-Acadia), Robichaud , (Saint-Louis-de-Kent), Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Ruck, St. Germain, Simard, Sparrow, *Spivak, Stewart, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Whelan, Wilson

PRAYERS

The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that a communication had been received from the Secretary to the Governor General.

The Communication was then read by the Honourable the Speaker as follows:

RIDEAU HALL

November 18, 1998

Mr. Speaker:

I have the honour to inform you that the Right Honourable Roméo LeBlanc, Governor General of Canada, will proceed to the Senate Chamber today, the 18th day of November, 1998, at 3:00 p.m. for the purpose of giving Royal Assent to a Bill.

Yours sincerely,

Judith A. LaRocque

Secretary to the Governor General

The Honourable
The Speaker of the Senate
Ottawa

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Stewart presented the following:

WEDNESDAY, November 18, 1998

The Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs has the honour to present its

SEVENTH REPORT

Your Committee, to which was referred the Bill C-52, An Act to implement the Comprehensive Nuclear Test-Ban Treaty, has examined the said Bill in obedience to its Order of Reference dated October 28, 1998, and now reports the same with the following amendment:

1. Page 13, clause 27.1 : replace lines 6 to 10 with the following:

"Tabling of report

(2) The Minister of Foreign Affairs shall cause a copy of the report to be laid before each House of Parliament on any of the first fifteen days on which that House is sitting after the Minister receives the report."

Respectfully submitted,

JOHN B. STEWART

Chairman

The Honourable Senator Corbin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kroft, that the Report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Introduction and First Reading of Government Bills

A Message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-51, An Act to amend the Criminal Code, the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act and the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, to which they desire the concurrence of the Senate.

The Bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Pépin, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading on Tuesday next, November 24, 1998.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ANSWERS TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Rule 25(2), the Honourable Senator Carstairs tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 116, dated May 5, 1998, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., respecting Cape Breton Development Corporation (DEVCO).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-922S.

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Fitzpatrick, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ruck, for the third reading of Bill C-29, An Act to establish the Parks Canada Agency and to amend other Acts as a consequence,

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Phillips, that the Bill be not now read a third time but that it be read a third time this day six months hence.

After debate, The question being put on the motion in amendment, With leave of the Senate, a recorded division was deferred until 3:30 p.m. tomorrow.

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Forrestall, seconded by the Honourable Senator Atkins, for the second reading of Bill S-19, An Act to give further recognition to the war-time service of Canadian merchant navy veterans and to provide for their fair and equitable treatment.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Pépin, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Reports of Committees

Consideration of the Twelfth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology (budget-study on the dimensions of social cohesion in Canada) presented in the Senate on October 1, 1998.

After debate, The Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Doody, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted. Orders No. 2 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting. Order No. 5 was called and pursuant to Rule 27(3) was dropped from the Order Paper.

Other

Orders No. 44, 15, 34 (inquiries), 84 (motion), 1 (other), 88 (motion), 42, 23, 41 (inquiries), 45, 1 (motions) and 39 (inquiry) were called and postponed until the next sitting. Order No. 35 (inquiry) was called and pursuant to Rule 27(3) was dropped from the Order Paper.

ROYAL ASSENT

The Senate adjourned during pleasure to await the arrival of His Excellency the Governor General. After awhile, His Excellency the Governor General, having come and being seated on the Throne-

The Honourable the Speaker commanded the Usher of the Black Rod to proceed to the House of Commons and acquaint that House that:-

"It is the pleasure of His Excellency the Governor General that they attend him immediately in the Senate Chamber." The House of Commons being come, One of the Clerks at the Table then read the title of the Bill to be assented to as follows:

An Act to amend the Judges Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts (Bill C-37, Chapter 30, 1998).

To this Bill the Royal Assent was pronounced by the Clerk of the Senate in the following words:-

"In Her Majesty's name, His Excellency the Governor General doth assent to this Bill."

3:24 p.m. The Commons withdrew. After which His Excellency the Governor General was pleased to retire.

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Public Accounts of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 1998, as follows: (1) Volume I-Summary Report and Financial Statements, (2) Volume II, Part I-Details of Expenditures and Revenues, (3) Volume II, Part II-Additional Information and Analyses, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 64(1).-Sessional Paper No. 1/36-921.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Carstairs moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C.:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

_____________________________________

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The names of the Honourable Senators Forrestall and Eyton substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Buchanan and Balfour (November 17).

The name of the Honourable Senator Grafstein substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Pépin (November 18).

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The names of the Honourable Senators Johnson and Spivak substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Stratton and Cohen (November 18).

Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages

The name of the Honourable Senator Robichaud (Saint-Louis-de-Kent) removed from the membership (November 18).

---