50 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2001, Canada

Journals of the Senate

1st Session, 37th Parliament

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Issue 47

Wednesday, June 13, 2001
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable Daniel Hays, Speaker

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The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Banks, Beaudoin, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, Cohen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, De Bané, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lawson, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Meighen, Milne, Moore, Morin, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, Pépin, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud, Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, St. Germain, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Tunney, Watt, Wiebe

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, *Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Banks, Beaudoin, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, Cohen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, De Bané, DeWare, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Ferretti Barth, Finestone, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Grafstein, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kirby, Kolber, Kroft, Lawson, LeBreton, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Meighen, Milne, Moore, Morin, Murray, Nolin, Oliver, *Pearson, Pépin, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud, Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Simard, Sparrow, Spivak, St. Germain, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Tunney, Watt, Wiebe, *Wilson

PRAYERS

Tribute was paid to the Honourable Senator DeWare, who will retire from the Senate on August 9, 2001.

 

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

 

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Gustafson, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry, presented its Third Report (Bill C-25, An Act to amend the Farm Credit Corporation Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts) without amendment.

The Honourable Senator Tunney moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hubley, that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a third reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

Government Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Stollery:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until tomorrow, Thursday, June 14, 2001, at 1:30 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

Introduction and First Reading of Government Bills

A Message was brought from the House of Commons with a Bill C-29, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2002, to which they desire the concurrence of the Senate.

The Bill was read the first time.

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Finestone, P.C., that the Bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading later this day.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Third reading of Bill C-28, An Act to amend the Parliament of Canada Act, the Members of Parliament Retiring Allowances Act and the Salaries Act.

The Honourable Senator Carstairs, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Joyal, P.C., that the Bill be read the third time.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted on division.

The Bill was then read the third time and passed, on division.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate have passed this Bill, without amendment.

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Moore, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kroft, for the third reading of Bill C-9, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Electoral Boundaries Readjustment Act.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the third time and passed.

Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate have passed this Bill, without amendment.

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Sibbeston, seconded by the Honourable Senator Milne, for the third reading of Bill C-4 An Act to establish a foundation to fund sustainable development technology.

After debate,

In amendment, the Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cochrane, that the Bill be not now read a third time but that it be referred back to the House of Commons for further study.

The question being put on the motion in amendment,

With leave of the Senate, a recorded division was deferred until 3:00 p.m. tomorrow.

Order No. 4 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Second reading of Bill C-29, An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the public service of Canada for the financial year ending March 31, 2002.

The Honourable Senator Finnerty moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Sibbeston, that the Bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Kinsella for the Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cochrane, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Cools, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wiebe, for the second reading of Bill S-9, An Act to remove certain doubts regarding the meaning of marriage.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Wiebe moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ferretti Barth, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders No. 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

 

Reports of Committees

Consideration of the Seventh Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology (budget-release of additional funds) presented in the Senate on June 12, 2001.

The Honourable Senator LeBreton moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Consideration of the Fifth Report (A) of the Standing Joint Committee on Official Languages (budget) presented in the Senate on June 12, 2001.

The Honourable Senator Maheu moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ferretti Barth, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Consideration of the Fifth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs (budget-release of additional funds) presented in the Senate on June 12, 2001.

The Honourable Senator Stollery moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poy, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Consideration of the Seventh Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources (budget-release of additional funds) presented in the Senate on June 12, 2001.

The Honourable Senator Taylor moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cools, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Order No. 5 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Consideration of the Sixth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology (budget-special study on Canadian identity) presented in the Senate on May 16, 2001.

The Honourable Senator LeBreton moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Spivak, that the Report be adopted.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

Other

Order No. 54 (motion) was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Moore calling the attention of the Senate to the emerging issue of deferred maintenance costs in Canada's post-secondary institutions.

Debate concluded.

Orders No. 41 (motion), 7 (inquiry), 3 (motion), 18, 20, 13, 16 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Maheu, seconded by the Honourable Senator Setlakwe:

That this House:

(a) Calls upon the Government of Canada to recognize the genocide of the Armenians and to condemn any attempt to deny or distort a historical truth as being anything less than genocide, a crime against humanity;

(b) Designates April 24th of every year hereafter throughout Canada as a day of remembrance of the 1.5 million Armenians who fell victim to the first genocide of the twentieth century.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Finnerty moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Chalifoux, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders No. 6, 11, 5 and 10 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Cools calling the attention of the Senate to the celebration of Black History Month in Canada, and the Canadian Bar Association of Ontario dinner in Toronto on February 1, 2001, at which she, as the keynote speaker, spoke to the topic A Room With a View: A Black Senator's View of the Canadian Senate.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Prud'homme, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Moore moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Andreychuk:

That the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance be authorized to examine and report on the role of government in the financing of deferred maintenance costs in Canada's post-secondary institutions; and

That the Committee report no later than the 31st day of October, 2001.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wiebe for the Honourable Senator Gustafson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Banks:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry, which was authorized by the Senate on March 20, 2001, to receive, examine and report on the papers, evidence, and work accomplished by the Committee during the Second Session of the 36th Parliament in relation to the present and future state of forestry, and to report by June 30, 2001, be permitted, notwithstanding usual practices, to deposit its report with the Clerk of the Senate, if the Senate is not then sitting, and that the report be deemed to have been tabled in the Chamber.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Reports of the Department of the Environment for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-285.

Report of the Canadian Transportation Agency, including the Report of the Air Travel Complaints Commissioner, for the year ended December 31, 2000, pursuant to the Canada Transportation Act, S.C. 1996, c. 10, sbs. 42(3).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-286.

Reports of the Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-287.

 

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Adams:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 6:40 p.m. the Senate was continued until 1:30 p.m. tomorrow)

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The name of the Honourable Senator Sparrow substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Fairbairn (June 12).

The name of the Honourable Senator Finestone added to the membership (June 12).

Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries

The name of the Honourable Senator Hubley substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Callbeck (June 12).

Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights

The name of the Honourable Senator Finestone substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Milne (June 12).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The name of the Honourable Senator Rompkey removed from the membership (June 12).

The name of the Honourable Senator Mahovlich substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Taylor (June 12).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The names of the Honourable Senators Morin, Fraser, Banks, Atkins, Murray, LeBreton, Robertson, Cordy and Cook substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Callbeck, Cordy, Cook, LeBreton, Robertson, Atkins, Murray, Fraser and Banks (June 12).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The name of the Honourable Senator Rompkey substituted for that of the Honourable Senator De Bané (June 12).

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