Journals of the Senate
51 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2002, Canada
Journals of the Senate
2nd Session, 37th Parliament
Issue 8
Tuesday, October 22, 2002
2:00 p.m.
The Honourable Lucie Pépin, Speaker pro tempore
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Beaudoin, Biron, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carney, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, Cook, Cools, Cordy, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Graham, Gustafson, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Jaffer, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, Kolber, LaPierre, Lapointe, Lawson, LeBreton, Léger, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Meighen, Milne, Morin, Murray, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Phalen, Poulin (Charette), Prud'homme, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud, Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, St. Germain, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Smith, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, Tkachuk, Watt, Wiebe
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
Adams, Andreychuk, Angus, Atkins, Bacon, Baker, Banks, Beaudoin, Biron, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carney, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Cochrane, *Comeau, Cook, Cools, Cordy, Day, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Finnerty, Fitzpatrick, Forrestall, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Gill, Graham, Gustafson, *Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Jaffer, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, Kinsella, *Kirby, Kolber, *Kroft, LaPierre, Lapointe, Lawson, LeBreton, Léger, *Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Mahovlich, Meighen, Milne, Morin, Murray, Oliver, Pearson, Pépin, Phalen, Poulin (Charette), Prud'homme, Rivest, Robertson, Robichaud, Roche, Rompkey, Rossiter, St. Germain, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Smith, Sparrow, Spivak, Stollery, Stratton, *Taylor, Tkachuk, Watt, Wiebe
The Clerk at the Table informed the Senate that the Honourable the Speaker was unavoidably absent, whereupon the Honourable Senator Pépin, Speaker pro tempore, took the Chair, pursuant to Rule 11.
PRAYERS
SENATORS' STATEMENTS
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS
Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., presented the following:
TUESDAY, October 22, 2002
The Committee of Selection has the honour to present its
THIRD REPORT
Pursuant to Rule 85(1)(b) of the Rules of the Senate, your Committee submits herewith the list of Senators nominated by it to serve on the following committees:
STANDING COMMITTEE ON ABORIGINAL PEOPLES
The Honourable Senators Carney, Chalifoux, Christensen, Gill, Hubley, Johnson, Léger, Pearson, Sibbeston, St. Germain, Stratton and Tkachuk.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON
AGRICULTURE AND FORESTRY
The Honourable Senators Chalifoux, Day, Fairbairn, Gustafson, Hubley, LaPierre, Lapointe, LeBreton, Moore, Oliver, Tkachuk and Wiebe.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON BANKING,
TRADE AND COMMERCE
The Honourable Senators Angus, Fitzpatrick, Hervieux-Payette, Kelleher, Kolber, Kroft, Meighen, Poulin, Prud'homme, Setlakwe, Taylor and Tkachuk.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON ENERGY, THE ENVIRONMENT AND NATURAL RESOURCES
The Honourable Senators Baker, Banks, Buchanan, Christensen, Cochrane, Eyton, Finnerty, Kenny, Milne, Spivak, Taylor and Watt.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON FISHERIES
The Honourable Senators Adams, Baker, Cochrane, Comeau, Cook, Hubley, Johnson, Mahovlich, Moore, Phalen, Robertson and Watt.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS
The Honourable Senators Andreychuk, Austin, Bolduc, Carney, Corbin, De Bané, Di Nino, Grafstein, Graham, Losier-Cool, Setlakwe and Stollery.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON HUMAN RIGHTS
The Honourable Senators Beaudoin, Jaffer, Ferretti Barth, Fraser, LaPierre, Maheu, Poy, Rivest and Rossiter.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON INTERNAL ECONOMY, BUDGETS AND ADMINISTRATION
The Honourable Senators Angus, Atkins, Austin, Bacon, Bryden, De Bané, Doody, Eyton, Gauthier, Gill, Jaffer, Kroft, Poulin, Robichaud and Stratton.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON LEGAL AND CONSTITUTIONAL AFFAIRS
The Honourable Senators Andreychuk, Baker, Beaudoin, Bryden, Buchanan, Cools, Furey, Jaffer, Joyal, Nolin, Pearson and Smith.
STANDING JOINT COMMITTEE ON THE
LIBRARY OF PARLIAMENT
The Honourable Senators Bolduc, Forrestall, Morin, Lapointe and Poy.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON NATIONAL FINANCE
The Honourable Senators Biron, Bolduc, Cools, Day, Doody, Eyton, Ferretti Barth, Finnerty, Furey, Gauthier, Mahovlich and Murray.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON
NATIONAL SECURITY AND DEFENCE
The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Day, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen, Smith and Wiebe.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON OFFICIAL LANGUAGES
The Honourable Senators Beaudoin, Comeau, Ferretti Barth, Gauthier, Keon, Lapointe, Léger, Losier-Cool and Maheu.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON RULES, PROCEDURES AND THE RIGHTS OF PARLIAMENT
The Honourable Senators Andreychuk, Bacon, Di Nino, Grafstein, Joyal, Losier-Cool, Milne, Murray, Pépin, Pitfield, Robertson, Rompkey, Smith, Stratton and Wiebe.
STANDING JOINT COMMITTEE FOR THE
SCRUTINY OF REGULATIONS
The Honourable Senators Biron, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Kelleher, Moore, Nolin and Phalen.
STANDING COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORT AND COMMUNICATIONS
The Honourable Senators Adams, Biron, Callbeck, Day, Eyton, Fraser, Graham, Gustafson, Johnson, LaPierre, Phalen and Spivak.
Pursuant to Rule 87, the Honourable Senator Carstairs, P.C. (or Robichaud, P.C.) and the Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton (or Kinsella) are members ex officio of each select committee.
Respectfully submitted,
WILLIAM ROMPKEY
Chair
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., that the Report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted on division.
ORDERS OF THE DAY
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
Bills
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Second reading of Bill C-5, An Act respecting the protection of wildlife species at risk in Canada.
The Honourable Senator Banks moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Maheu, that the Bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The Bill was then read the second time.
The Honourable Senator Banks moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Maheu, that the Bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Second reading of Bill C-8, An Act to protect human health and safety and the environment by regulating products used for the control of pests.
The Honourable Senator Morin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Hubley, that the Bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Kinsella moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robertson, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Second reading of Bill C-10, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (cruelty to animals and firearms) and the Firearms Act.
The Honourable Senator Jaffer moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Maheu, that the Bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Cools moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Watt, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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Ordered, That Order No. 1 under OTHER BUSINESS, Reports of Committees, set down on the Orders of the Day for tomorrow, be brought forward.
Consideration of the Third Report of the Committee of Selection (membership of certain committees) presented in the Senate earlier this day.
The Honourable Senator Rompkey, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., that the Report be adopted.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Ordered, That a Message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House of the names of the Honourable Senators appointed to serve on the Standing Joint Committees.
GOVERNMENT BUSINESS
Bills
Second reading of Bill C-11, An Act to amend the Copyright Act.
The Honourable Senator Day moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., that the Bill be read the second time.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Kinsella for the Honourable Senator Rivest moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Oliver, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
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Ordered, That all remaining Orders be postponed until the next sitting.
REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):
Copy of Regulations amending the United Nations Suppression of Terrorism Regulations (SOR/2002-327), pursuant to the United Nations Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. U-2, sbs. 4(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-68.
Report on the Witness Protection Program by the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Witness Protection Program Act, S.C. 1996, c. 15, s. 16.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-69.
Copy of Order in Council P.C. 2002-1583, dated September 24, 2002, concerning the Agreement on Social Security between the Government of Canada and the Federal Republic of Germany, pursuant to the Old Age Security Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. O-9, sbs. 42(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-70.
Copy of Order in Council P.C. 2002-1259, dated July 17, 2002, concerning the Agreement on Social Security between the Government of Canada and the Republic of Hungary, pursuant to the Old Age Security Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. O-9, sbs. 42(1). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-71.
Copy of Order in Council P.C. 2002-739, dated May 2, 2002, concerning the Agreement on Social Security between the Government of Canada and Sweden, pursuant to the Old Age Security Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. O-9, sbs. 42(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-72.
Report of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended April 30, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-73.
Reports of the Canadian Centre for Management Development for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-74.
Reports of the Security Intelligence Review Committee for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37- 75.
Reports of the Privy Council Office for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-76.
Reports of the National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-77.
Report of the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-13, sbs. 26(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-78.
Report of Telefilm Canada, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Canadian Film Development Corporation Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-16, sbs. 23(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/ 37-79.
Report of the National Film Board of Canada, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the National Film Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. N-8, sbs. 20(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-80.
Report of the National Gallery of Canada and its affiliate the Canadian Museum of Contemporary Photography, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-81.
Report of the Canada Science and Technology Museum Corporation, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-82.
Reports of the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Québec for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-83.
Reports of the Department of Health for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-84.
Report of the Canada Foundation for Innovation, together with the Auditor's Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Budget Implementation Act, 1997, S.C. 1997, c. 26, sbs. 29(3).—Sessional Paper No. 2/ 37-85.
Reports of the National Research Council for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-86.
Reports of the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2) .—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-87.
Report of the Federal Bridge Corporation Limited, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-88.
Report of the Queens Quay West Land Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-89.
Report of the Canada Lands Company Limited, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-90.
Reports of the Blue Water Bridge Authority for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-91.
Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 2001-02 to 2005-06 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 2001-02 of the Blue Water Bridge Authority, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-92.
Reports of the Department of Public Works and Government Services for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-93.
Report on the administration of the Fisheries Improvement Loans Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-22, sbs. 14(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-94.
Report on the administration of the Atlantic Fisheries Restructuring Act for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-14, sbs. 8(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-95.
Report of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation for the fiscal year ended April 30, 2002, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-96.
Summaries of the Corporate Plan for the period 2002-03 to 2006-07 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets for 2002-03 of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-97.
Report of the Public Service Commission of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Public Service Employment Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-33, sbs. 47(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-98.
Reports of the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37- 99.
Report of the Auditor General of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-100.
Report of the Cape Breton Development Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-101.
Report of the Association of Canada Lands Surveyors, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Canada Land Surveyors Act, S.C. 1998, c. 14, sbs. 70(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-102.
Reports of the Yukon Territory Water Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-103.
Reports of the British Columbia Treaty Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/37- 104.
Reports of the Yukon Surface Rights Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2). —Sessional Paper No. 2/37-105.
Report of the Copyright Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2002, pursuant to the Copyright Act, R.S.C. 1985 (4th Supp.), c. 10, s. 12.—Sessional Paper No. 2/37-106.
ADJOURNMENT
The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Kinsella:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 5:55 p.m. the Senate was continued until 1:30 p.m. tomorrow)
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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)
Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration
The names of the Honourable Senators Maheu and De Bané substituted for those of the Honourable Senators Rompkey and Robichaud (October 11).