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67 Elizabeth II , A.D. 2018, Canada

1st Session, 42nd Parliament

Issue 247 (Revised)

Tuesday, November 20, 2018
2 p.m.

The Honourable GEORGE J. FUREY, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndreychukBattersBellemareBeyakBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBrazeauBussonCampbellCarignanChristmasCordyCormierCoyleDalphondDaskoDawsonDayDeacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDoyleDuffyDupuisDyckEatonForestForest-NiesingFrancisFrumFureyGagnéGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHartlingHousakosJoyalLankinMacDonaldMaltaisManningMarshallMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcCoyMcInnisMcIntyreMcPhedranMégieMercerMitchellMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettPratteRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSinclairSmithStewart OlsenTannasTkachukVernerWellsWhiteWoo

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AndreychukBattersBellemareBeyakBlack*Black (Alberta)BoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBrazeauBussonCampbellCarignanChristmasCordyCormierCoyle*DagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDay*Deacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDoyleDuffyDupuisDyckEatonForestForest-NiesingFrancisFrumFureyGagnéGalvezGoldGreeneGriffinHarderHartlingHousakosJoyal*KlyneLankinMacDonaldMaltaisManningMarshallMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcCoyMcInnisMcIntyreMcPhedranMégieMercerMitchellMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMunsonNeufeldNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettPratteRavaliaRichardsSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSinclairSmithStewart OlsenTannasTkachukVerner*WallinWells*WetstonWhiteWoo

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Tabling of Documents

The Honourable the Speaker tabled the following:

Fall 2018 Reports of the Auditor General of Canada to the Parliament of Canada, pursuant to the Auditor General Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-17, sbs. 7(3).—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2585.

Presenting or Tabling Reports from Committees

The Honourable Senator Mockler, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance, presented the committee’s thirty-fourth report (Bill C-62, An Act to amend the Federal Public Sector Labour Relations Act and other Acts, without amendment).

The Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for third reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Galvez, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources, informed the Senate that, pursuant to the orders adopted by the Senate on March 10, 2016, and November 8, 2018, the committee deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on November 16, 2018, its sixteenth report (interim) entitled Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Canada’s Built Environment.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2582S.

First Reading of Commons Public Bills

A message was brought from the House of Commons with Bill C-281, An Act to establish a National Local Food Day, to which it desires the concurrence of the Senate.

The bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mitchell, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading two days hence.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Delayed Answers

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., tabled the following:

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 6, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Wallin, concerning military equipment.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2586S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on September 18, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Marshall, concerning the Trans Mountain pipeline.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2587S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on September 19, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Dagenais, concerning post-traumatic stress disorder.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2588S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on September 20, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Dagenais, concerning the icebreaker fleet.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2589S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on September 20, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Stewart Olsen, concerning tariffs – duty relief.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2590S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on September 25, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Smith, concerning oral fluid drug screening devices.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2591S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on September 27, 2018 by the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., concerning the Netflix broadcasting agreement. —Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2592S.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Second Reading

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Greene, seconded by the Honourable Senator Massicotte, for the second reading of Bill S-6, An Act to implement the Convention between Canada and the Republic of Madagascar for the avoidance of double taxation and the prevention of fiscal evasion with respect to taxes on income.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted, on division.

The bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Greene moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Massicotte, that the bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gold, seconded by the Honourable Senator Moncion, for the second reading of Bill C-59, An Act respecting national security matters.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Bovey moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Omidvar, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 5 and 6 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pratte, seconded by the Honourable Senator Coyle, for the second reading of Bill C-71, An Act to amend certain Acts and Regulations in relation to firearms.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Order No. 3 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Motions

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Woo moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain:

That, except in relation to the joint committees and the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators, and notwithstanding the provisions of rules 12-2(3), 12-3(1), and 12-3(2); of the order of November 7, 2017; and of any usual practice:

1.as of the end of the day on the Sunday following the adoption of this order, senators who are members of committees, other than the ex officio members, cease to be members of those committees; and

2.at any time after the adoption of this order, the Facilitator of the Independent Senators Group (or designate), the Leader of the Opposition (or designate), and the Leader of the Independent Liberal senators (or designate) name, from their respective party or group, by notice filed with the Clerk of the Senate, who shall have the notice recorded in the Journals of the Senate, the new members of those committees to be effective as of the beginning of the day on the Monday following the adoption of this order or upon receipt of the notice, whichever comes later, according to the following numbers, with the total membership of a committee increasing, as required, as a consequence:

(a) the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs:

(i)six senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)four Conservative senators, and

(iii)two Independent Liberal senators;

(b)the Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

(i)seven senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)four Conservative senators, and

(iii)two the Independent Liberal senators;

(c)the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry; and the Standing Senate Committee on Fisheries and Oceans:

(i)seven senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)four Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator;

(d)the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples; the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration; the Special Senate Committee on Senate Modernization; and the Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament:

(i)seven senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)six Conservative senators, and

(iii)two Independent Liberal senators;

(e)the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources:

(i)seven senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)six Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator;

(f)the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance; and the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology:

(i)seven senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)five Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator;

(g)the Special Senate Committee on the Arctic; and the Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages:

(i)four senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)four Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator;

(h)the Special Senate Committee on the Charitable Sector:

(i)three senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)three Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator;

(i)the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce:

(i)seven senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)five Conservative senators, and

(iii)two Independent Liberal senators;

(j)the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights:

(i)five senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)three Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator;

(k)the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence; and the Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications:

(i)six senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)five Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator; and

(l)the Committee of Selection:

(i)four senators from the Independent Senators Group,

(ii)four Conservative senators, and

(iii)one Independent Liberal senator;

That, for greater certainty, a senator who is, as of the end of the day on the Sunday following the adoption of this order, the chair or deputy chair of a committee remain in that position at the beginning of the day on the Monday following the adoption of this order, if still then a member of the committee;

That, notwithstanding any other provision in this order, a non-affiliated senator who is a member of a committee at the end of the day on the Sunday following the adoption of this order continue as a member of that committee at the beginning of the day on the Monday following the adoption of this order, with the number of seats that the leader or facilitator of the largest recognized party or recognized parliamentary group can appoint under the terms of this order being reduced by an equivalent number;

That a senator who retained a seat on a committee under the provisions of the previous paragraph cease to be a member of that committee if the senator:

1.becomes a member of a recognized party or recognized parliamentary group; or

2.places him- or herself under the authority of a leader or facilitator for the purposes of making membership changes to committees;

That, if a senator ceases to be a member of a committee pursuant to the previous paragraph, the leader or facilitator of the party or group whose number of seats had been reduced be authorized to fill the consequential vacancy;

That, notwithstanding any usual practice, for the remainder of the current session, a non-affiliated senator may, by written notice to the Clerk, place him- or herself under the authority of one leader or facilitator for the purposes of making membership changes to committees, including the joint committees, pursuant to rule 12-5, provided that the senator may, again by written notice to the Clerk, at any time cancel this authority;

That, except as provided in the immediately preceding two paragraphs, nothing in this order affect processes under the Rules permitting membership changes once new members of a committee have been named pursuant to this order; and

That, for greater certainty, nothing in this order affect the provisions of rule 12-3(3) and the provisions of the order of November 7, 2017, respecting ex officio membership.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted, on division.

Bills – Messages from the House of Commons

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Third Reading

Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Third reading of Bill S-248, An Act respecting National Physicians’ Day.

The Honourable Senator Cordy moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Mercer, that the bill be read for a third time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Jaffer, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cordy, for the second reading of Bill S-247, An Act to establish International Mother Language Day.

The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 4 to 10 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 to 9 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 1, 5 to 8, 50 and 100 and 101 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 73, 89, 146, 158, 189, 215, 245, 302, 310, 325, 328, 357 and 358, 371 and 397 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Order No. 12 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Tardif, calling the attention of the Senate to regional universities and the important role they play in Canada.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Mercer moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Cordy, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 26, 36, 39 and 40, 45, 47, 52 and 53 and 56 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

MOTIONS

Order No. 406 was withdrawn pursuant to rule 5-10(2).

ADJOURNMENT

At 4:00 p.m., pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate on November 1, 2018, the Senate adjourned until 2 p.m., tomorrow.

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Sixteenth report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources, entitled Reducing Greenhouse Gas Emissions from Canada’s Built Environment, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on November 16, 2018, pursuant to the orders adopted by the Senate on March 10, 2016 and November 8, 2018.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2582S.

Amendments to the Management Plan for the Gwaii Haanas Gina ‘Waadluxan KilGulGa Land-Sea-People, pursuant to the Canada National Parks Act, S.C. 2000, c. 32, sbs. 11(2) and to the Parks Canada Agency Act, S.C. 1998, c. 31, sbs. 32(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2583.

Report on Official Languages for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2017, pursuant to the Official Languages Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. 31 (4th Supp.), s. 44.—Sessional Paper No. 1/42-2584.


Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Special Committee on the Arctic

The Honourable Senator Boyer replaced the Honourable Senator Galvez (November 20, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Galvez replaced the Honourable Senator Boyer (November 19, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce

The Honourable Senator Klyne replaced the Honourable Senator Ringuette (November 20, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Wells was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (November 14, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

The Honourable Senator Oh replaced the Honourable Senator Mockler (November 14, 2018).

Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration

The Honourable Senator Wetston replaced the Honourable Senator McCoy (November 19, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Dawson replaced the Honourable Senator Jaffer (November 20, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on National Finance

The Honourable Senator Boehm was added to the membership (November 19, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Deacon (Nova Scotia) was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (November 19, 2018).

Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages

The Honourable Senator Poirier replaced the Honourable Senator Mockler (November 20, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Mockler replaced the Honourable Senator Poirier (November 19, 2018).

Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament

The Honourable Senator McPhedran replaced the Honourable Senator Dupuis (November 19, 2018).

The Honourable Senator Lankin, P.C., replaced the Honourable Senator Woo (November 19, 2018).

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