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Journals of the Senate

1 Charles III , A.D. 2022, Canada

1st Session, 44th Parliament

Issue 62 (Unrevised)

Thursday, September 22, 2022
2 p.m.

The Honourable PIERRETTE RINGUETTE, Speaker pro tempore


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBrazeauBussonCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDeacon (Nova Scotia)DeanDowneDuncanForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGignacGoldGreeneHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacDonaldMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMoodieOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasWallinWhiteWooYussuff

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Anderson*Arnot*AtaullahjanBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBrazeauBussonCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDeacon (Nova Scotia)DeanDowneDuncanForestFrancis*FureyGagnéGalvez*GerbaGignacGoldGreeneHartlingHousakosJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacDonald*MarshallMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMoodie*OhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasWallinWhiteWooYussuff

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

Delayed Answers

Pursuant to rule 4-10(2), the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 26, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding COVID-19 testing of essential workers and truck drivers at the Canada-U.S. border.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-991S.

Reply to Question No. 27, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding breakthrough cases of COVID-19.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-992S.

Reply to Question No. 29, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding flights in Canada with COVID-positive passengers.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-993S.

Reply to Question No. 30, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding virtual care and mental health tools for Canadians.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-994S.

Reply to Question No. 40, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding seizures of fentanyl — Health Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-995S.

Reply to Question No. 40, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding seizures of fentanyl — Public Safety Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-996S.

Reply to Question No. 103, dated November 25, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Downe, regarding overseas tax evasion.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-997S.

Reply to Question No. 124, dated February 8, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding oil transport — Innovation, Science and Industry Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-998S.

Reply to Question No. 124, dated February 8, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding oil transport — Transport Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-999S.

Reply to Question No. 133, dated February 8, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the Canada Emergency Wage Subsidy.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1000S.

Reply to Question No. 141, dated March 30, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Housakos, regarding interprovincial trucking.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1001S.

Reply to Question No. 145, dated March 30, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Housakos, regarding the Canada’s Tobacco Strategy — Canada Revenue Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1002S.

Reply to Question No. 145, dated March 30, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Housakos, regarding the Canada’s Tobacco Strategy — Health Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1003S.

Reply to Question No. 145, dated March 30, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Housakos, regarding the Canada’s Tobacco Strategy — Public Safety Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1004S.

Reply to Question No. 156, dated April 26, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the 2030 Emissions Reduction Plan.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1005S.

Reply to Question No. 168, dated June 2, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding N95 masks — follow-up to written question 70.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1006S.

Reply to Question No. 171, dated June 23, 2022, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., regarding the proportion of federal employees teleworking.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1007S.

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The Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., tabled the following:

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on December 14, 2021, by the Honourable Senator Wells, concerning pandemic-related travel restrictions.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1008S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on February 8, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., concerning the Special Olympics.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1009S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on February 10, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Cormier, concerning the LGBTQ2 Community Capacity Fund.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1010S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on February 24, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Petitclerc, concerning support for Paralympic athletes.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1011S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on March 1, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Cotter, concerning the Special Economic Measures Act.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1012S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on March 4, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne, concerning the fight against online sexual exploitation of youth.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1013S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on March 24, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Housakos, concerning Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1014S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on March 29, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Cordy, concerning proof of vaccination for international travel.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1015S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on April 6, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Loffreda, concerning Budget 2022.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1016S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on April 6, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Martin, concerning unspent funding.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1017S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on April 7, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Martin, concerning federal incorporation fees.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1018S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on April 7, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Martin, concerning transfer of small business.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1019S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 4, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Cotter, concerning the Strategic Innovation Fund.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1020S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 4, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Seidman, concerning the Global Public Health Intelligence Network.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1021S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 10, 2022, by the Honourable Senator McPhedran, concerning the Afghanistan crisis.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1022S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 12, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Boisvenu, concerning support for veterans — Infrastructure Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1023S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 12, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Boisvenu, concerning support for veterans — Veterans Affairs Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1024S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 12, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Wells, concerning assistance for victims of flooding.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1025S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 17, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Plett, concerning the rehabilitation of 24 Sussex Drive.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1026S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 18, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Bellemare, concerning employment insurance and processing times.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1027S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 18, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Coyle, concerning the Glasgow Climate Pact.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1028S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 19, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Galvez, concerning the anti-racism strategy.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1029S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on May 31, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Omidvar, concerning the Afghanistan crisis.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1030S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 1, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Martin, concerning funding for primary healthcare.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1031S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 7, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Patterson, concerning the Canada Infrastructure Bank.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1032S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 8, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Martin, concerning suicide prevention.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1033S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 9, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Wells, concerning the detention of Canadians in the Dominican Republic.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1034S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 15, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Ataullahjan, concerning airport screening employees — security background checks.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1035S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 16, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., concerning passport services.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1036S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 20, 2022, by the Honourable Senator MacDonald, concerning access to information.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1037S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 21, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario), concerning the Phoenix pay system.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1038S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 21, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Seidman, concerning the Pan-Canadian Health Data Strategy.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1039S.

Response to the oral question asked in the Senate on June 23, 2022, by the Honourable Senator Martin, concerning the 2 Billion Trees Program.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1040S.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Second Reading

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Dawson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bovey, for the second reading of Bill C-11, An Act to amend the Broadcasting Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Downe moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Tannas, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Reports of Committees – Other

Order No. 6 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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The Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gagné:

That, notwithstanding any provision of the Rules, previous order, or usual practice, until end of the day on December 22, 2022, any joint committee be authorized to hold hybrid meetings, with the provisions of the order of February 10, 2022, concerning such meetings, having effect; and

That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that house accordingly.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Gagné moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, September 27, 2022, at 2 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Inquiries

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.


At 3:18 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 3:27 p.m., the sitting resumed.

Question Period

Pursuant to the order adopted on December 7, 2021, the Senate proceeded to Question Period.

The Honourable Marc Miller, P.C., M.P., Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations, entered the Senate and took part in Question Period.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Inquiries

The Honourable Senator Patterson called the attention of the Senate to the inquiry standing in the name of the Honourable Senator Gagné concerning the life of our late Sovereign, Queen Elizabeth II.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Gagné moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Other Business

Senate Public Bills – Third Reading

Orders No. 1, 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Consideration of the ninth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology (Bill S-208, An Act respecting the Declaration on the Essential Role of Artists and Creative Expression in Canada, with amendments and observations), presented in the Senate on June 20, 2022.

The Honourable Senator Omidvar moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dean, that the report be adopted.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Patterson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Tannas, for the second reading of Bill S-228, An Act to amend the Constitution Act, 1867 (property qualifications of Senators).

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 and 18 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Ringuette, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ravalia, for the second reading of Bill S-239, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (criminal interest rate).

The Honourable Senator Petitclerc moved, for the Honourable Senator Duncan, seconded by the Honourable Senator Clement, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Order No. 20 (Bill S-240) was called and, pursuant to rule 4-15(2), dropped from the Order Paper and Notice Paper.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Klyne, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., for the second reading of Bill S-241, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act (great apes, elephants and certain other animals).

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Patterson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Black, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29 and 30 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Order No. 18 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Consideration of the sixth report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples, entitled Not Enough: All Words and No Action on MMIWG, tabled in the Senate on June 22, 2022.

The Honourable Senator Francis moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Klyne:

That the sixth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples, tabled in the Senate on Wednesday, June 22, 2022, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 20 and 21 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Consideration of the seventh report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples, entitled Make it Stop! Ending the remaining discrimination in Indian registration, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on June 27, 2022.

The Honourable Senator Francis moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Klyne:

That the seventh report of the Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples, tabled with the Clerk of the Senate on Monday, June 27, 2022, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-24(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Indigenous Services Canada being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report, in consultation with the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Motions

Orders No. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 10, 11, 12, 19, 30, 50 and 52 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Boyer, calling the attention of the Senate to the positive contributions and impacts that Métis, Inuit, and First Nations have made to Canada, and the world.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 4, 5, 6 and 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Gagné moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 5:45 p.m., the Senate was continued until Tuesday, September 27, 2022, at 2 p.m.)

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Legislative Costing Note of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Canada Recovery Dividend, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-988.

Legislative Costing Note of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Additional Tax on Banks and Life Insurers, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-989.

Reports of the Office of the Auditor General of Canada, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-990.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The Honourable Senator Oh replaced the Honourable Senator Mockler (September 22, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Mockler replaced the Honourable Senator Oh (September 22, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., replaced the Honourable Senator Dawson (September 22, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Hartling replaced the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario) (September 21, 2022).

Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration

The Honourable Senator Woo replaced the Honourable Senator Boyer (September 21, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Loffreda was added to the membership (September 21, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Boyer replaced the Honourable Senator Loffreda (September 21, 2022).

The Honourable Senator Marwah was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (September 21, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., replaced the Honourable Senator Klyne (September 22, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Official Languages

The Honourable Senator Bellemare replaced the Honourable Senator Dalphond (September 22, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Poirier replaced the Honourable Senator Martin (September 21, 2022).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The Honourable Senator Manning replaced the Honourable Senator Wells (September 21, 2022).

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