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2 Charles III , A.D. 2023, Canada

1st Session, 44th Parliament

Issue 156 (Unrevised)

Thursday, November 2, 2023
2 p.m.

The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBoyerBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDeacon (Nova Scotia)DeanDowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarPatePatterson (Nunavut)Patterson (Ontario)PettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVernerWallinWellsWhite

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBoyerBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDeacon (Nova Scotia)DeanDowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldJafferKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarPatePatterson (Nunavut)Patterson (Ontario)PettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVernerWallinWellsWhite

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

WRITTEN DECLARATION OF ROYAL ASSENT

At 2 p.m., the Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the following communication had been received:

RIDEAU HALL

November 1, 2023

Madam Speaker,

I have the honour to inform you that the Right Honourable Mary May Simon, Governor General of Canada, signified royal assent by written declaration to the bill listed in the Schedule to this letter on the 1st day of November, 2023, at 4:12 p.m.

Yours sincerely,

Maia Welbourne

Acting Secretary to the Governor General

The Honourable

The Speaker of the Senate

Ottawa

Schedule

Bill Assented To

Wednesday, November 1, 2023

An Act to amend the Canada Business Corporations Act and to make consequential and related amendments to other Acts (Bill C-42, Chapter 29, 2023)

Tributes

Tribute was paid to the memory of the Honourable Senator Shugart, P.C., whose death occurred on October 25, 2023.

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The Senate observed a minute of silence in memory of the Honourable Ian Shugart, P.C.

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Presenting or Tabling Reports from Committees

The Honourable Senator Ataullahjan, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights, informed the Senate that, pursuant to the orders adopted by the Senate on March 3, 2022, and October 26, 2023, the committee deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on November 2, 2023, its sixth report (interim) entitled Combatting Hate: Islamophobia and its impact on Muslims in Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2294S.

The Honourable Senator Ataullahjan moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Notices of Inquiries

Ordered: That the following inquiry be placed on the Notice Paper for later this day:

By the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson: That she will call the attention of the Senate to the life of the late Honourable Ian Shugart, P.C.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Third Reading

Third reading of Bill C-29, An Act to provide for the establishment of a national council for reconciliation, as amended.

The Honourable Senator Audette moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, that the bill, as amended, be read for a third time.

The Honourable Senator Audette moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 1, 131 and 132 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Audette:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, November 7, 2023, at 2 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Inquiries

Orders No. 3, 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Black, seconded by the Honourable Senator Osler, for the adoption of the twelfth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry (Bill C-234, An Act to amend the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act, with an amendment and observations), presented in the Senate on October 26, 2023.

After debate,

The question was put on the motion.

Pursuant to rule 9-10(2), a standing vote was deferred until 5:30 p.m. at the next sitting, with the bells to sound at 5:15 p.m. for fifteen minutes.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Boisvenu, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, for the second reading of Bill S-255, An Act to amend the Criminal Code (murder of an intimate partner, one’s own child or an intimate partner’s child).

Ordered: That further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Clement.

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Orders No. 14 and 15 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Martin, seconded by the Honourable Senator Housakos, for the second reading of Bill S-260, An Act respecting National Diffuse Midline Glioma Awareness Day.

The Honourable Senator Loffreda moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 17, 18, 19, 20, 21 and 22 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Ordered: That consideration of Order No. 23 be postponed until the next sitting of the Senate.

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Orders No. 24 and 25 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Ordered: That consideration of Order No. 26 be postponed until the next sitting of the Senate.

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Orders No. 27 and 28 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Quinn, seconded by the Honourable Senator Verner, P.C., for the second reading of Bill S-273, An Act to declare the Chignecto Isthmus Dykeland System and related works to be for the general advantage of Canada.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Coyle moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Loffreda, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 30, 31, 32, 33, 34 and 35 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.


At 4:34 p.m., the sitting was suspended.

At 4:39 p.m., the sitting resumed.


Order No. 6 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gerba, seconded by the Honourable Senator Klyne, for the second reading of Bill C-282, An Act to amend the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Act (supply management).

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Loffreda moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 8, 9 and 10 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Private Bills – Second Reading

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Clement, seconded by the Honourable Senator Duncan, for the second reading of Bill S-1001, An Act to amalgamate The Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation of Ottawa and The Roman Catholic Episcopal Corporation for the Diocese of Alexandria-Cornwall, in Ontario, Canada.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Loffreda moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain, that the bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Commerce and the Economy.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 31, 33, 40, 48, 51, 53 and 54 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12, 19, 30, 68, 77, 82, 96, 107 and 113 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Moncion, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dalphond:

That, in light of the adoption of the Financial Policy for Senate Committees by the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration on June 1, 2023, the Senate Administrative Rules be amended in Chapter 3:05

(a)by repealing the heading before section 1, section 1, subsections 10(2) and (3) and section 11; and

(b)by replacing the heading before section 2 and subsections 2(1) and (2) with the following:

“Committee Budgets

2. (1) A committee budget for special expenses must be

(a) adopted by the committee;

(b) submitted by the committee to the Internal Economy Committee for its consideration; and

(c) presented to the Senate by committee report, with the budget and a report of the Internal Economy Committee attached.

(2) A budget prepared for the purposes of subsection (1) must contain a detailed estimate of the committee’s special expenses for the fiscal year.”; and

That the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel be authorized to make any necessary technical, editorial, grammatical, or other required, non-substantive changes to the Senate Administrative Rules as a result of these amendments, including the updating of cross-references and the renumbering of provisions.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Order No. 147 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 and 16 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Moncion moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain:

That, in light of the recent changes to the Senate Room Allocation Policy by the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration, the Senate Administrative Rules be amended as follows:

1.That the Senate Administrative Rules be amended

(a)in Chapter 5:03 by replacing sections 2 and 3 with the following:

“Basic staff

2. (1) The Clerk Assistant, Committees, will assign a clerk to each Senate committee.”

Additional Staff

(2) The Internal Economy Committee may direct the Clerk Assistant, Committees, to provide a committee with any additional staff that the Committee sees fit.

Schedule and room allocation

3. The Clerk Assistant, Committees, in consultation with all leaders and facilitators, will assign a meeting schedule and reserve a room for each Senate committee and subcommittee that meets regularly.”, and

(b)in Chapter 5:04 by replacing subsection 2(2) with the following:

“Meeting schedule

(2) The Clerk Assistant, Committees, in consultation with the caucus spokespersons, will assign a meeting schedule and reserve a room for each caucus that meets regularly. Due consideration should be given to the size of a caucus and its status as a recognized party or recognized parliamentary group, as defined by the Rules of the Senate.”; and

2.That the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel be authorized to make any necessary technical, editorial, grammatical or other required, non-substantive changes to the Senate Administrative Rules as a result of these amendments, including the updating of cross-references and the renumbering of provisions.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Dean moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ravalia:

That the Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs be permitted, notwithstanding usual practices, to deposit with the Clerk of the Senate reports related to its study on issues relating to Veterans Affairs, including services and benefits provided, commemorative activities, and the continuing implementation of the Veteran’s Well-being Act, if the Senate is not then sitting, and that the reports be deemed to have been tabled in the Senate.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

INQUIRIES

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson called the attention of the Senate to the life of the late Honourable Ian Shugart, P.C.

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 5:03 p.m., the Senate was continued until Tuesday, November 7, 2023, at 2 p.m.)

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Canada Revenue Agency for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2273.

Report of the Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023, pursuant to the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, S.C. 1992, c. 20, s. 192.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2274.

Report of the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency respecting the disclosure of information under the Security of Canada Information Disclosure Act for the year ended December 31, 2022, pursuant to the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency Act, S.C. 2019, c. 13, s. 2 “39(2)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2275.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Office of the Commissioner of Official Languages for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2276.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Department of Western Economic Diversification for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 12(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2277.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Department of Transport for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 12(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2278.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Canadian Transportation Agency for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2279.

Service Fees Report of the Department of Transport from 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 20.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2280.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for Shared Services Canada for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2281.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Department of Fisheries and Oceans for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 12(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2282.

Report of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled The Life Cycle Cost of Canada’s F-35 Program – A Fiscal Analysis, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2283.

Service Fees Report of the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development for 2022 to 2023, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 20.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2284.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2285.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Veterans Review and Appeal Board for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2286.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Department of Veterans Affairs for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 12(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2287.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Public Health Agency of Canada for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2288.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Department of Health for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 12(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2289.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Canadian Institutes of Health Research for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2290.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Patented Medicine Prices Review Board for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2291.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2292.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy for the Department of Canadian Heritage for 2023 to 2027, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 12(1).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2293.

Sixth report (interim) of the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights, entitled Combatting Hate: Islamophobia and its impact on Muslims in Canada, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on November 2, 2023, pursuant to the orders adopted by the Senate on March 3, 2022 and October 26, 2023.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2294S.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

The Honourable Senator Greene replaced the Honourable Senator Patterson (Ontario) (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Dean replaced the Honourable Senator Boniface (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Coyle replaced the Honourable Senator Lankin, P.C. (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Boniface replaced the Honourable Senator Hartling (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Busson replaced the Honourable Senator MacAdam (November 2, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples

The Honourable Senator Greenwood replaced the Honourable Senator Busson (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Coyle replaced the Honourable Senator Cormier (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Arnot replaced the Honourable Senator Duncan (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Cormier replaced the Honourable Senator Coyle (November 1, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Cardozo replaced the Honourable Senator Klyne (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Prosper replaced the Honourable Senator Tannas (November 1, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs

The Honourable Senator Oh replaced the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C. (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Deacon (Ontario) (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Saint-Germain replaced the Honourable Senator Pate (November 1, 2023).

Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament

The Honourable Senator Oh replaced the Honourable Senator Wells (November 2, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Osler replaced the Honourable Senator Tannas (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Tannas replaced the Honourable Senator Quinn (November 2, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Bernard replaced the Honourable Senator Cardozo (November 1, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., replaced the Honourable Senator Klyne (November 1, 2023).

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