The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAl ZaibakAndersonArnotAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoudreauBoyerBrazeauBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneForestFrancisFridhandlerGagnéGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacDonaldManningMartinMassicotteMcBeanMcNairMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieMoreauMuggliOmidvarOslerOudarPatePattersonPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRobinsonRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSeniorSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneVernerWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWoo

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAl ZaibakAndersonArnotAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoudreauBoyerBrazeauBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneForestFrancisFridhandlerGagnéGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacDonaldManningMartinMassicotteMcBeanMcNairMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieMoreauMuggliOmidvarOslerOudarPatePattersonPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRobinsonRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSeniorSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneVernerWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWoo

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

INTRODUCTION OF SENATORS

The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the Clerk of the Senate had received a certificate from the Registrar General of Canada showing that Pierre Moreau had been summoned to the Senate.

The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that there was a senator without waiting to be introduced.

The Honourable Senator Moreau was introduced between the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., and the Honourable Senator Gignac, and having presented His Majesty’s Writ of Summons it was read by one of the clerks at the table as follows:

Mary May Simon

(G.S.)

Charles the Third, by the Grace of God King of Canada and His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth.

TO

Our Trusty and Well-beloved,

of Saint-Lambert, in the Province of Quebec,

GREETING:

KNOW YOU, that as well for the especial trust and confidence We have manifested in you, as for the purpose of obtaining your advice and assistance in all weighty and arduous affairs which may the State and Defence of Canada concern, We have thought fit to summon you to the Senate of Canada and We do appoint you for the division of The Laurentides in Our province of Quebec.

AND WE do command you, that all difficulties and excuses whatsoever laying aside, you be and appear for the purposes aforesaid, in the Senate of Canada at all times whensoever and wheresoever Our Parliament may be in Canada convoked and holden, and this you are in no wise to omit.

IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed.

WITNESS:

Our Right Trusty and Well-beloved Mary May Simon, Chancellor and Principal Companion of Our Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.

AT OUR GOVERNMENT HOUSE, in Our City of Ottawa, this tenth day of September in the year of Our Lord two thousand and twenty-four and in the third year of Our Reign.

BY COMMAND,

Registrar General of Canada

The Honourable Senator Moreau came to the table and took and subscribed the oath prescribed by law, which was administered by the Clerk of the Senate, the Commissioner appointed for that purpose, and took his seat as a member of the Senate.

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The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the honourable senators introduced today had made and subscribed the Declaration of Qualification required of them by the Constitution Act, 1867, in the presence of the Clerk of the Senate, the Commissioner appointed to receive and witness same.

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The Senate observed a minute of silence in memory of former senator the Honourable Francis Fox, P.C.

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Presenting or Tabling Reports from Committees

The Honourable Senator Massicotte presented the following:

Wednesday, September 25, 2024

The Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources has the honour to present its

TENTH REPORT

Your committee, to which was referred Bill C-49, An Act to amend the Canada—Newfoundland and Labrador Atlantic Accord Implementation Act and the Canada-Nova Scotia Offshore Petroleum Resources Accord Implementation Act and to make consequential amendments to other Acts, has, in obedience to the order of reference of June 6, 2024, examined the said bill and now reports the same with the following amendments:

1.Clause 7, page 4: Replace line 2 with the following:

“section 5(1), section 29.1, subsection 41(7),”.

2.Delete clause 28, pages 11, 12, 13, 14, 15 and 16.

3.Make any necessary consequential changes to the numbering of provisions and cross-references resulting from the amendments to the bill.

Respectfully submitted,

Observations to the tenth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources (Bill C-49)

There exists in Nova Scotia the tripartite Terms of Reference signed in 2010, which establishes a process for consulting on any legislation, policies, or actions by the federal and/or provincial government that may impact the rights of Nova Scotia Mi’kmaq. Chief Sidney Peters, who represents 12 of the 13 Mi’kmaw communities in the province received a mandate from all his member chiefs to ask for several amendments regarding concerns spanning from a lack of consultation requirements at key decision points throughout the proposed process to compensation to inclusive language on bidding on contracts.

This committee strongly disagrees with any process that does not honour the commitments made by the signatories of the Terms of Reference and encourages that the honour of the Crown be upheld in all future legislation and policy initiatives that impact Nova Scotia Mi’kmaq.

The Honourable Senator Massicotte moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Francis, that the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Delayed Answers

Pursuant to rule 4-9(7), the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson tabled the following:

Response to Question No. 281, dated November 2, 2023, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3381S.

Response to Question No. 299, dated February 6, 2024, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the Royal Canadian Mint.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3382S.

Response to Question No. 311, dated February 29, 2024, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3383S.

Response to Question No. 315, dated March 19, 2024, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Pate, regarding Indigenous child welfare.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3384S.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Motions

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petten:

That, notwithstanding any provision of the Rules, previous order or usual practice, in relation to Bill C-76, An Act to amend the Canada National Parks Act:

1.if the Senate receives the bill, it be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at second reading later that day, as the first item of Government Business if received before that point in the sitting, or, if received after that point in the sitting, as the next item of business, and the sitting not adjourn that day before the Senate has begun proceedings on the bill at second reading;

2.if the bill is adopted at second reading, it stand referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources;

3.the committee be authorized to meet at any time for the purposes of its consideration of the bill, subject to the availability of necessary services, whether the Senate is then sitting or adjourned;

4.the committee be authorized to report the bill at any time the Senate is sitting, except during Question Period;

5.if the committee reports the bill without amendment, the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for third reading later that sitting, provided that if the report is presented after the point where the Senate would normally have dealt with the bill at third reading, the bill either be taken into consideration at third reading forthwith, or, if another item is under consideration at the time the report is presented, the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at third reading as the next item of business;

6.if the committee reports the bill with amendment or with a recommendation that the Senate not proceed further with the bill:

(a)the report be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration later that sitting, provided that if the report is presented after the point where the Senate would normally have dealt with the report, it either be taken into consideration forthwith, or, if another item is under consideration at the time the report is presented, it be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration as the next item of business; and

(b)once the Senate decides on the report, the bill, if still before the Senate, be taken into consideration at third reading forthwith; and

7.once debate begins at any stage of consideration of the bill, unless a vote is deferred, the debate not be adjourned, with the sitting continuing beyond the ordinary time of adjournment if required to complete debate at that stage.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Bills – Reports of Committees

Consideration of the twenty-fifth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs (Bill S-15, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act, with amendments and observations), presented in the Senate on June 20, 2024.

The Honourable Senator Cotter moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Woo, that the report be adopted.

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After debate,

A point of order was raised with respect to the requirement for a Royal Recommendation for Bill S-15.

Debate.

ADJOURNMENT

At 4 p.m., pursuant to the order adopted by the Senate on September 21, 2022, the Senate adjourned until 2 p.m., tomorrow.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Commerce and the Economy

The Honourable Senator McNair was added to the membership (September 25, 2024).

Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources

The Honourable Senator Galvez replaced the Honourable Senator Woo (September 25, 2024).

The Honourable Senator McCallum replaced the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain (September 25, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Robinson replaced the Honourable Senator Prosper (September 25, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne replaced the Honourable Senator Kutcher (September 24, 2024).

Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration

The Honourable Senator Al Zaibak replaced the Honourable Senator Quinn (September 25, 2024).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Kingston replaced the Honourable Senator Petitclerc (September 25, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Dasko (September 24, 2024).