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Budget Implementation Bill, 2023, No. 1

Third Reading--Debate

June 20, 2023


Hon. Tony Loffreda [ + ]

Moved third reading of Bill C-47, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 28, 2023.

He said: Honourable senators, it is with pleasure that I rise to speak at third reading of Bill C-47, budget implementation act, 2023, No. 1. I’m particularly pleased to rise to discuss a bill that wasn’t amended in committee.

Budget 2023 comes at an important time for our country. The bill that accompanies the government’s latest budget contains important measures that will help entrepreneurs, workers, students and families.

Some of those many measures are the Canada Growth Fund and the new Canada innovation corporation. These two entities will help Canada meet its net-zero emissions goals. They should also be able to help to accelerate and increase investment in Canada, which will drive domestic economic growth and create jobs.

Colleagues, you can all breathe a sigh of relief. I will not speak for 45 minutes today, although I’m tempted to because I feel Bill C-47 is such a good piece of legislation.

In my second reading speech, you may recall that I provided a detailed account of half of the measures in the bill, so I don’t feel the need to rehash everything today. I thank Senator Marshall for her comprehensive speech, too. Like it was for me, I know it was difficult for her to condense everything she wanted to say into 45 minutes. I’m always impressed with her detailed analysis of the government’s budgetary measures. We are lucky to have her on our National Finance Committee, for sure.

Thank you also to Senator Colin Deacon for raising some concerns regarding division 39 of the bill that deals with the Canada Elections Act. I would second his call to action that the political parties in our country, with their large databases of information on their members and supporters, need to start adhering to strong international norms in terms of privacy policies.

Today, I will not discuss the content of Bill C-47 specifically. I did that in detail in my second reading speech. Rather, I will do three things. First, I will provide a more detailed answer to the question raised by Senator Wallin at second reading on the Air Travellers Security Charge. Then, I will discuss the four observations of our National Finance Committee on Bill C-47. As usual, great work has been done by our committee, and I think it is important that we bring out the observations and work of all of the committees that have helped to build Bill C-47. Finally, I will wrap things up with a few words of thanks.

As you may recall, Senator Wallin asked about the rate increase to the Air Travellers Security Charge, or ATSC. The government is proposing to increase the rates by 32.85% in May 2024, which would, on average, increase the cost of a domestic return trip by about $5. Senator Wallin wanted to know about how and where the money generated from this measure will be used. As you know, air travel security expenses include CATSA operations, but also include the contracting of RCMP officers on selected flights.

When Minister Alghabra appeared before our Committee on Transport and Communications, Senator Harder asked him if 100% of the fees generated by this increase will be dedicated to CATSA, and the minister said, “Yes.” The minister added:

CATSA has not seen an increase in its fees in 13 years. The last time we increased those fees was 2010. Again, during the pandemic, we saw some of the vulnerabilities and some of the capacity issues and technologies that they need to improve upon. So this was a reminder to us as a government and a country that we need to modernize CATSA. That is the purpose of this new proposal.

I hope this answers Senator Wallin’s question.

The second item I want to highlight are the observations our National Finance Committee included when we adopted the bill last week. I thank my colleagues on the committee for their insightful contributions and for proposing the following four observations.

First, the committee urges the government to undertake a comprehensive review of how the tax system can be updated in order to help lift some Canadians out of poverty. The Income Tax Act is over 3,400 pages. It’s overly complicated, and our committee believes a thorough overhaul of the tax system is long overdue. We need to find ways of promoting fax fairness, as well as substantive equality and accessibility.

Second, as you may recall from my second reading speech, much was said about the GST/HST treatment of payment card clearing services and the application of a retroactive tax. Allow me to read, verbatim, our observation:

Members of the National Finance Committee expressed reservations about certain provisions of sections 114 to 116 of Bill C-47 which would make the GST/HST applicable retroactively to payment card clearing services even though the Federal Court of Appeal had clearly ruled in January 2021 that these services are financial in nature and therefore exempt from GST/HST. According to the testimonies heard, this would also constitute a certain inconsistency with the international practices in force in countries where a value-added tax like the GST/HST is in place.

In the eyes of the committee members, the 26-month delay observed by the federal Department of Finance in reacting to a decision by the Federal Court of Appeal is not only unacceptable but also constitutes a dangerous precedent according to the Canadian Bar Association.

Third, and as stipulated by the Committee on Transport and Communications, the provisions on the extension of interswitching also raised some questions among the members of the National Finance Committee. As we wrote:

The Committee has reservations about the interconnection extension provided for in section 22 of Part 4 of Bill C-47, considering, among other things, that these measures had already been put in place in 2014 and were subsequently eliminated because they were deemed inadequate.

Personally, I accept that the government is implementing this new pilot, which is in response to the National Supply Chain Task Force’s 2022 final report. Although railways are not supportive of this measure, many other industries are calling for its implementation. It will allow the government to gather data to assess the value of extending interswitching on a permanent basis.

Finally, our committee’s last observation is one I addressed in my second reading speech. Senator Marshall raised similar concerns in her remarks. Our committee “. . . expresses its concern about the continued use of Omnibus Bills.” It feels that:

 . . . many sections . . . are unrelated to the fiscal policy of the Government, such as the amendments to the Criminal Code and the Canada Elections Act.

As I said a few weeks ago, there are many legislative changes in Bill C-47 that could have, and probably should have, been introduced with their own stand-alone pieces of legislation. Senators will likely agree with our committee “. . . that insufficient time was provided to the Senate to thoroughly study the Bill, and to determine its impact.” I am also preoccupied with the swift manner in which we must always deal with budget implementation acts, or BIAs. Although it has become part of parliamentary convention, it still does not make it right.

However, despite these very legitimate concerns, Canadians can feel confident in the work of our committees. Including the clause-by-clause consideration of the bill, our committees held 40 meetings in total, and there have been 210 unique committee witness appearances. We heard from cabinet ministers, dozens of government officials and a long list of relevant stakeholders.

Would we have appreciated more time to study the bill? Of course; there is never enough time. Could we have questioned more witnesses and obtained more testimony? Most certainly, but we did our work despite tight deadlines. There’s no doubt about it.

This brings me to my final comments.

Sponsoring a budget implementation act through the Senate is a big undertaking. I want to thank Senator Gold’s office and the Deputy Prime Minister’s office for all their assistance. They have been instrumental in helping me navigate the legislative process, and provide the support and appropriate information to senators and their staff when needed and in a timely manner. Thank you.

I want to thank all the staff at the National Finance Committee and all those behind the cameras that make our committee run like clockwork. A special thank you to Ms. Aubé, our clerk, and her assistant, as well as our two analysts. Once again, thank you to all the committee members — those on national finance and all the other committees — who did great work on Bill C-47, which I strongly support.

Once more, I want to acknowledge the work of our eight Senate standing committees that supported the National Finance Committee in pre-studying Bill C-47. Your reports were very helpful, and I know we all appreciated your work.

I want to take this opportunity to thank all my colleagues for their insight, comments, and interventions, for supporting me in my role as sponsor of Bill C-47 and I wish you all a pleasant and restful summer. Hopefully, this will be if not my last intervention, one of my last, but we never know in this chamber. So we’re ready when it happens, but hopefully it’s one of my last.

Before we adjourn, I would urge all my honourable colleagues to support the passage of Bill C-47 not because the government wants us to, but because it’s a good bill with great measures that many stakeholders are calling for. Thank you, meegwetch.

Hon. Clément Gignac [ + ]

Colleagues, I rise today to share my thoughts on Bill C-47, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 28, 2023. Given that we are at third reading stage and about to rise for the summer, I will keep all of my thoughts on the state of the Canadian economy to myself. I also want to thank Senator Loffreda for his restraint because it means I will be able to give my speech before dinner. We will wait until we come back in the fall to talk about the economy.

As our colleague, Senator Mockler, already mentioned, the Standing Senate Committee on National Finance, of which I’m also a member, held eight meetings and devoted nearly 14 hours to an in-depth study of the bill. We heard from some 74 witnesses. That may seem like a lot, but this is a huge bill with dozens of regulatory tax initiatives, some of which, quite frankly, should have been introduced in separate bills. In fact, an observation to that effect was made by the committee, which finds the practice to be unacceptable.

Before addressing my discomfort with the retroactive tax measure contained in this budget, let me share with you my concern about the rapid increase in the size of the federal government in recent years.

The best way to illustrate this rapid expansion of the federal government is to point out the actual number of employees in the public service. From 2016 to 2023, the public service workforce grew from 340,000 to nearly 425,000 full-time equivalent, or FTE, employees. That means it grew by 25%. Even more troubling is the increase in payroll, which has risen by 70% over the past seven years. As Parliamentary Budget Officer Yves Giroux pointed out, this dramatic rise can be attributed to the growing number of programs brought in by the federal government in recent years.

Another way to illustrate how the federal government has grown in size is to express budgetary expenditures as a percentage of gross domestic product, or GDP. As an economist, I find this method even more relevant because it offers the advantage of taking into account population growth and inflation, and it facilitates comparison over time. If we exclude debt servicing, budget spending can be grouped into three broad categories. The first is transfers to individuals, such as Old Age Security, or OAS, and EI. The second is transfers to the provinces, and the third is government operating expenditures, also known as direct program expenses.

In my opinion, the category we ought to pay the closest attention to when referring to the increase in the size of government is the last one, operating expenditures. Indeed, these expenditures increased from 6.6% of GDP in 2016 to 8.1% of GDP in the last fiscal year. However, during this same period, transfers to individuals and to the provinces remained relatively stable, about 4.1% to 3.1% of GDP respectively.

It should also be noted that the national defence sector included in the federal government’s operating expenditures is not the cause of the increase of the size of the federal government since 2016 since the ratio of military expenditures to GDP has remained relatively flat for seven years, around 1.3% — a figure still very far from the official 2% target recommended by the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO.

On this subject, despite a full chapter in the budget dedicated to Canada’s leadership in the world, I was very surprised to find out last spring, after examining the budget document, that the national defence budget will still be around 1.3% of GDP five years from now. As a member of the National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs Committee, I find this a little awkward, especially with the new geopolitical context since the invasion of Ukraine by Russia.

Honourable senators, I am also very disappointed with the absence of a budgetary anchor in the 2023 budget. Contrary to what was observed after the 2008-09 financial crisis, the current government has not committed yet to return to a balanced budget or shared any precise calendar to return to the previous federal debt-to-GDP ratio seen before the pandemic. More disturbing is the fact that the federal debt-to-GDP ratio will increase from 42.4% to 43.5% over the next year despite an economy running at full capacity. The government is content to reiterate its intention to reduce the debt-to-GDP ratio over the medium-term.

According to several experts, the federal government’s lack of fiscal restraint has helped stimulate economic activity, making the Bank of Canada’s job of controlling inflation more difficult. Honourable senators, the government and certain other observers have argued that Canada has the lowest ratio of net public debt to GDP of all G7 countries and a triple-A credit rating. That’s right.

However, senators should know that this top position is largely due to the significant financial assets held by our public sector pension plans. Here in the Senate, we keep hearing over and over that their operations, including those in tax havens and in certain autocratic nations, are at arm’s-length from the government.

Colleagues, I don’t want to linger on these two concepts of net public debt and gross public debt, because that might eat up the rest of my speaking time. I’m sure that, with Senator Marshall and Senator Loffreda, I’ll have the great pleasure of doing so in the fall.

However, everyone agrees that one notion illustrates the weight of public debt, that of debt servicing, which has gone from 7 cents per dollar of recorded revenue before the pandemic to roughly 12 cents for this year. What’s more, this rate will likely go up since it’s based on the assumption that the interest rate will be lowered below the 3% mark as early as next year. Fortunately, we’re far from the 38-cent rate we saw in the mid-1990s, a time when Canada was at risk of being placed under the stewardship of the International Monetary Fund, the IMF. However, that shouldn’t be an excuse for being complacent or nonchalant.

Honourable colleagues, I’m also very skeptical about the fiscal projections set out in Budget 2023 regarding a gradual reduction in the deficit and the size of government. First, unlike the good governance practices put in place by former Liberal finance minister, the Right Honourable Paul Martin, and maintained almost every year by the various Liberal and Conservative finance ministers who followed since the mid-1990s, this budget doesn’t set out a contingency reserve. Simply put, if the Bay Street economists, who all agree, are wrong about the direction of the Canadian economy and the country goes into a recession, then the budget deficit for the current year will go up because there’s no emergency cushion or contingency reserve.

Second, Budget 2022 created expectations by announcing the launch of a comprehensive strategic policy review to assess program effectiveness and identify opportunities to save, but, oddly enough, there’s no further mention of that in Budget 2023. As the Parliamentary Budget Officer said, and I quote:

Aside from proposing to reduce spending on consulting, other professional services and travel, Budget 2023 does not identify opportunities to save and reallocate resources “to adapt government programs and operations to a new post‑pandemic reality” . . . .

In the absence of any exhaustive review of programs by the Treasury Board, I have some doubts about the projected spending reduction five years from now to get back to the 2016 level of 6.6% of GDP. I believe that this figure will be revised upwards with the implementation of the future dental insurance and drug insurance programs, not to mention the pressure to be exerted by the Pentagon and our other NATO allies to finally commit to the 2% of GDP target for military spending.

Colleagues, as a final point, I’d like to talk about the tax measure — which is retroactive to boot — that really upset me. Senator Loffreda has already spoken about it. It has to do with certain provisions in clauses 114 to 116 of Bill C-47 that make payment card clearing services subject to GST retroactively. This is a technical measure that hasn’t won much sympathy from the public, because it affects financial institutions.

As pointed out by the Canadian Bankers Association, the Desjardins Group and even the Canadian Bar Association, the legitimacy of the government’s decision to introduce new tax rules in the budget isn’t in dispute. Rather, it’s the retroactive nature of this measure that’s problematic.

This saga began in 2015, when CIBC decided to formally challenge, before the Tax Court of Canada, CRA’s interpretation that these clearing services were administrative, not financial, in nature. Accordingly, these services would be subject to the GST. Based on the testimony we heard, the fact that the federal government lost in Federal Court in January 2021, didn’t appeal to the Supreme Court and came back 26 months later with a retroactive measure is unprecedented. This sets a dangerous precedent, as mentioned by the bill’s sponsor, Senator Loffreda, whose perseverance and leadership I commend.

Honourable senators, despite everything I told you, despite my reservations and my disappointments, I will support Bill C-47. My discomfort with the last fiscal measure I talked about earlier was the subject of an observation presented by the committee, and not an amendment.

Let’s clarify, for new senators, that bills related to the budget, unlike other bills, are rarely amended.

The last time an amendment to a budgetary bill was accepted was in 2016. My colleague Senator Harder must remember, since one of the measures clearly interfered in Quebec’s jurisdiction with respect to the Consumer Protection Act. It was the government representative in the Senate who proposed this amendment on the suggestion of the Minister of Finance following pressure from Senator Pratte and the Government of Quebec. It is possible, but rather rare, for amendments to be made to budget implementation bills.

In conclusion, honourable senators, I’d like to take this opportunity to put both current and future governments on notice: My support for budget bills is not unconditional. During the pandemic, I supported this government’s emergency measures to keep the country from sinking into a recession because I felt it was the right thing to do.

However, I believe that the authorities would be well advised to adopt fiscal anchors soon to avoid fuelling inflation before they implement expensive new social programs like pharmacare and dental care, especially since these are under provincial jurisdiction.

As a former politician whose face once appeared on campaign signs, I’m well aware that we, as senators, don’t have the same legitimacy as representatives in the other chamber. I accept that. I don’t miss it. However, the Senate is an institution of sober second thought that is now made up mostly of independent senators from all walks of life. Their qualifications are the envy of the boards of directors of many large Canadian corporations.

Moreover, we now have a minority government holding on to power thanks to an alliance with a third party. This situation demands vigilance on our part because many initiatives didn’t necessarily get the support of a majority of Canadians in the last election. In fact, some weren’t even on the governing party’s platform.

This independence from a political party and this freedom of speech prompted several of us to apply to join the Senate to work together in the interest of Canadians. In my humble opinion, the current or future government and Canadians in general should be delighted with senators’ intellectual independence, even if it sometimes causes delays because of in-depth studies by committees and proposed amendments. After having heard the wise comments made by Senator Shugart in this chamber, I recognize that we’re definitely in uncharted waters. I’m counting on him and all of you, esteemed colleagues, to guide me in carrying out this role of second sober thought, while believing that there’s added value in my sitting in the Senate and commenting on Bill C-47.

Thank you for your attention.

Honourable colleagues, I rise today on behalf of Senator Galvez to deliver her remarks on Bill C-47, the 2023 budget implementation act.

This omnibus bill seeks to implement some, but not all, provisions set forth in the 2023 budget, as well as provisions that were not specified in Budget 2023.

The bill has four parts covering a vast number of both economic and non-economic topics over a total of 408 pages. As is usual, specific sections have been referred to some committees for study. In the limited time I have available, I will focus on three sections with environmental impact that my team and I believe are of utmost importance to bring to the public’s attention.

The first pertains to the crucial issue of remediating the Faro Mine in Yukon, a site that has posed environmental problems to Indigenous and non-Indigenous communities for decades. Second, I will touch upon issues relating to the Canada Growth Fund. Lastly, I will discuss the significance of making changes to the mandate of the Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions, or OSFI, using a budget bill.

Bill C-47 authorizes the remediation of the Faro Mine in Yukon with an estimated cost of $1 billion plus $166 million for the first 10 years of long-term operation and maintenance. This is a huge budget and a very long duration, but most important is the message it sends; it enforces the belief that the principle of “polluter pays” can’t be avoided because the government will assume remediation costs. We need to have stronger legislation to prevent similar situations in the future. For example, it is now that, with respect to oil sands tailings ponds, we need to clearly establish how much the remediation will cost, what treatment will be used, when they will be remediated and who will pay.

The Faro Mine, an area the size of Victoria, B.C., holds a significant place in Canada’s mining history. It was once one of the largest lead and zinc mines in the world, operating from 1969 to 1998. The environmental consequences of the mine’s operations became apparent after its abandonment in 1998, when it left behind 70 million tonnes of tailings and 320 million tonnes of waste rock. The vast amounts of tailings, waste rock and water, with high concentrations of heavy metals, pose severe risks to the surrounding ecosystem and communities.

The mine site contains various hazardous substances, including heavy metals such as lead, zinc and cadmium, which can contaminate water sources and soil. Exposure to these contaminants can have severe health consequences, particularly for local Indigenous communities who rely on the land and water for their traditional practices and sustenance. Prolonged exposure has led to various health problems, including neurological disorders, developmental issues in children, respiratory ailments and an increased risk of certain types of cancers.

The remediation efforts aim to mitigate contamination and restore the affected ecosystems. Importantly, the goal is not necessarily to remove the contamination but to cover it and push that responsibility of environmental stewardship onto future generations.

An official of the Government of Yukon told the committee that “. . . active management at the Faro Mine . . . will be measured in hundreds of years.”

The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore [ + ]

I am sorry, Senator Pate, but you will have 11 minutes upon our return.

Honourable senators, it is now six o’clock. Pursuant to rule 3-3(1), I am obliged to leave the chair until eight o’clock, unless it is your wish, honourable senators, not to see the clock.

Is it agreed not to see the clock?

The Hon. the Speaker pro tempore [ + ]

Honourable senators, leave is not granted. Therefore, the sitting is suspended, and I will leave the chair until 8 p.m.

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