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QUESTION PERIOD — Indigenous and Northern Affairs

Blockade Protests--Rule of Law

February 20, 2020


Hon. Donald Neil Plett (Leader of the Opposition)

Honourable senators, my question is again for the government leader in the Senate. Leader, yesterday VIA Rail announced close to 1,000 of its employees would be laid off. CN Rail is also laying off in excess of 450 workers. Almost 1,500 people are now out of work, all due to rail blockades which have gone on far too long.

Last year, leader, when SNC-Lavalin was said to be in danger of leaving Canada, allegedly losing 9,000 jobs which never materialized, the Prime Minister and his office got involved to the point of interfering in an independent criminal prosecution, all because they said they were trying to save jobs.

This year, our rail system is mostly shut down, leader. Rail workers and workers in small businesses are losing their jobs daily. We are seeing propane, chlorine and fertilizer shortages. Our ports are blocked and farmers cannot move their products. And what does the Prime Minister do in response? Next to nothing.

Senator Gold, how many more people will have to lose their jobs before this Prime Minister will act to end these blockades?

Hon. Marc Gold (Government Representative in the Senate) [ - ]

Thank you very much for the question. I think all Canadians share the frustration and indeed the hardship that we’re experiencing in this time.

I’ve been advised, and the government has stated on a number of occasions, that it fully understands, it deeply understands the impact this is having on individual Canadians, on their businesses, on families, on farmers and indeed on the economy. It is, as the Prime Minister said just yesterday, unacceptable. The challenge, though, is finding the way in which to end this in an appropriate way that does not do more harm than good.

As the chamber knows, the government does not control police operations, whether the RCMP or provincial police, and in a democratic country we would want it no other way. The government’s position is that nation-to-nation dialogue is still — frustrating though it is — the best path forward.

I do note that the RCMP has in fact made an offer to leave the Wet’suwet’en territory, which for a long time, as you know, was a condition for the hereditary chiefs being willing to meet with the Minister of Crown-Indigenous Relations. I think that is a good sign. National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations Perry Bellegarde also welcomed the offer, saying that it’s an important opportunity for progress, dialogue and safety.

I know that the government remains determined to do everything it can to bring this unacceptable situation to a peaceful end as soon as possible.

We’ve all heard the saying, “when Rome was burning, Nero was playing the flute.” What musical instrument does Prime Minister Justin Trudeau play?

Senator Gold, both you and the Prime Minister have spoken of the need to resolve this quickly — quickly — but your government has done absolutely nothing quickly, or in fact nothing at all, to show any sense of urgency whatsoever. The Prime Minister will only talk with people who share his vision, while the situation gets worse. VIA Rail was supposed to resume its service between Montreal and Quebec City today, but due to a new blockade — instead of cleaning up blockades, a new blockade — those plans have been cancelled.

Senator Gold, the rail blockades began two weeks ago. This is not acting quickly. When will we see an action plan and a time frame — please, a time frame; we will end it by this day — from the Prime Minister for ending this crisis?

Senator Gold [ - ]

Thank you again for your question. I’m not sure what instrument the Prime Minister plays, but he’s not fiddling, as Nero did; on the contrary.

The efforts being made by the government and RCMP to work with all representatives of the First Nations — including hereditary chiefs and elected chiefs — although in the form of dialogue, is action. I understand, and the government understands, the frustration of seeing roadblocks go up and not being taken down. However, if we ignore our history, we’re condemned to repeat it, as was said. Every time these challenges and obstacles are met with force rather than understanding, dialogue and negotiation, things get worse, not better.

The government’s position, though frustrating and clearly difficult for all, remains to seek a peaceful, negotiated way out of this impasse.

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