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National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs

 

Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue 1 - Minutes of Proceedings - November 7, 2013


OTTAWA, Thursday, November 7, 2013
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 11:02 a.m. in room 2, Victoria Building, for the purpose of holding its organization meeting, pursuant to rule 12-13.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Dallaire, Lang, Mitchell, Nolin, Wells and White (6).

In attendance: Holly Porteous and Wolfgang Koerner, Analysts, Parliamentary Information and Research Service, Library of Parliament.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to rule 12-13, the clerk of the committee presided over the election of the chair.

The Honourable Senator Dallaire moved:

That the Honourable Senator Lang do take the chair of this committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The clerk invited Senator Lang to take the chair.

The chair presided over the election of the deputy chair.

The Honourable Senator Lang moved:

That the Honourable Senator Dallaire be the deputy chair of this committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Nolin moved:

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be composed of the chair, the deputy chair, and one other member of the committee, to be designated after the usual consultation; and

That the subcommittee be empowered to make decisions on behalf of the committee with respect to its agenda, to invite witnesses, and to schedule hearings.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator White moved:

That the committee publish its proceedings.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Mitchell moved:

That, pursuant to rule 12-17, the chair be authorized to hold meetings, to receive and authorize the publication of the evidence when a quorum is not present, provided that a member of the committee from both the government and the opposition be present.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Dallaire moved:

That the committee adopt the draft first report, prepared in accordance with rule 12-26(2).

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved:

That the committee ask the Library of Parliament to assign analysts to the committee;

That the chair be authorized to seek authority from the Senate to engage the services of such counsel and technical, clerical, and other personnel as may be necessary for the purpose of the committee's examination and consideration of such bills, subject-matters of bills, and estimates as are referred to it;

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be authorized to retain the services of such experts as may be required by the work of the committee; and

That the chair, on behalf of the committee, direct the research staff in the preparation of studies, analyses, summaries, and draft reports.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator White moved:

That, pursuant to section 7, chapter 3:06 of the Senate Administrative Rules, authority to commit funds be conferred individually on the chair, the deputy chair, and the clerk of the committee;

That, pursuant to section 8, chapter 3:06 of the Senate Administrative Rules, authority for certifying accounts payable by the committee be conferred individually on the chair, the deputy chair, and the clerk of the committee; and

That, notwithstanding the foregoing, in cases related to consultants and personnel services, the authority to commit funds and certify accounts be conferred jointly on the chair and deputy chair.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Dallaire moved:

That the committee empower the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure to designate, as required, one or more members of the committee and/or such staff as may be necessary to travel on assignment on behalf of the committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Dallaire moved:

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be authorized to:

(1) determine whether any member of the committee is on ``official business'' for the purposes of paragraph 8(3)(a) of the Senators Attendance Policy, published in the Journals of the Senate on Wednesday, June 3, 1998; and

(2) consider any member of the committee to be on ``official business'' if that member is: (a) attending an event or meeting related to the work of the committee; or (b) making a presentation related to the work of the committee; and

That the subcommittee report at the earliest opportunity any decisions taken with respect to the designation of members of the committee travelling on committee business.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Nolin moved:

That, pursuant to the Senate guidelines for witness expenses, the committee may reimburse reasonable travelling and living expenses for one witness from any one organization and payment will take place upon application, but that the chair be authorized to approve expenses for a second witness should there be exceptional circumstances.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Mitchell moved:

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be empowered to direct communications officer(s) assigned to the committee in the development of communications plans where appropriate and to request the services of the Senate Communications Directorate for the purposes of their development and implementation; and

That the Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure be empowered to allow coverage by electronic media of the committee's public proceedings with the least possible disruption of its hearings at its discretion.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Nolin moved:

That the chair and deputy chair consult with their colleagues from other committees on the committees' general and specific needs regarding Senate Communications services and the need to hire outside communications consultants.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Nolin moved:

That the chair be authorized to seek authority of the Senate for the following order of reference:

That the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence be authorized to examine and report on Canada's national security and defence policies, practices, circumstances and capabilities; and

That the papers and evidence received and taken and the work accomplished by the committee on this subject during the Fortieth Parliament and the First Session of the Forty-first Parliament be referred to the Committee; and

That the Committee report to the Senate no later than December 19, 2014, and that the Committee retain all powers necessary to publicize its findings until 90 days after the tabling of the final report.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved:

That the chair be authorized to seek authority of the Senate for the following order of reference:

That the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence be authorized to study:

(a) services and benefits provided to members of the Canadian Forces; to veterans who have served honourably in Her Majesty's Canadian Armed Forces in the past; to members and former members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and its antecedents; and all of their families;

(b) commemorative activities undertaken by the Department of Veterans' Affairs Canada, to keep alive for all Canadians the memory of Canadian veterans' achievements and sacrifices; and

(c) continuing implementation of the New Veterans' Charter;

That the papers and evidence received and taken and the work accomplished by the Committee on this subject during the Fortieth Parliament and the First Session of the Forty-first Parliament be referred to the Committee; and

That the Committee report to the Senate no later than December 19, 2014, and that the Committee retain all powers necessary to publicize its findings until 90 days after the tabling of the final report.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator White moved:

That a subcommittee on Veterans Affairs be established to study matters which may be referred to it by the committee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator White moved:

That the membership of the subcommittee be as follows: the Honourable Senators: Dallaire, Day, Lang, Nolin and Wells, three of whom shall constitute a quorum.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Dallaire moved:

That, pursuant to rule 12-9(2), the committee's authority to send for persons, papers and records, whenever required, and to publish from day to day such papers and evidence as may be ordered by it, be conferred on the subcommittee;

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Dallaire moved:

That, pursuant to rule 12-17, the committee's authority to hold meetings, to receive and authorize the publication of the evidence when a quorum is not present, be conferred on the subcommittee;

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Dallaire moved:

That, once ordered by the Senate, the committee's authority to engage the services of such counsel and technical, clerical, and other personnel as may be necessary for the purpose of the committee's examination and consideration of such bills, subject-matters of bills and estimates as are referred to it, be conferred on the subcommittee;

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved:

That, pursuant to section 7, Chapter 3:06 of the Senate Administrative Rules, the committee's authority to commit funds be conferred on the subcommittee;

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved:

That, pursuant to section 8, Chapter 3:06 of the Senate Administrative Rules, the committee's authority for certifying accounts payable be conferred on to the subcommittee;

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved:

That the committee's authority, pursuant to paragraph 8(3)(a) of the Senators Attendance Policy, be conferred on the subcommittee;

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved:

That, the committee's power to permit coverage by electronic media of its public meetings be conferred on the subcommittee; and

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Wells moved:

That, pursuant to the Senate guidelines for witness expenses, the authority of the committee to reimburse reasonable travelling and living expenses for witnesses, be conferred on the subcommittee.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Mitchell moved:

That the chair be authorized to request a Government response to the Committee's report on harassment in the RCMP, adopted by the Senate in the previous session, entitled: Conduct Becoming: Why the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Must Transform its Culture.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Honourable Senator Nolin moved:

That the chair be authorized to request a Government response to the Committee's report on the New Veterans Charter, adopted by the Senate in the previous session, entitled: A Study of the New Veterans Charter.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

At 11:30 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the chair.

ATTEST:

Josée Thérien

Clerk of the Committee


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