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69 Elizabeth II , A.D. 2020, Canada

2nd Session, 43rd Parliament

Issue 6 (Unrevised)

Wednesday, October 28, 2020
2 p.m.

The Honourable GEORGE J. FUREY, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBlack (Ontario)BoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBussonCarignanCormierCotterDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDeacon (Ontario)DeanForestFureyGagnéGalvezGoldHarderHousakosJafferKeatingLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMarshallMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMercerMoncionMoodieMunsonNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSmithTannasWallinWellsWhiteWoo

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanBattersBellemareBlack (Ontario)BoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoveyBussonCarignanCormierCotterDagenaisDalphondDaskoDawsonDeacon (Ontario)DeanForestFureyGagnéGalvezGoldHarderHousakosJafferKeatingLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMarshallMartinMarwahMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMercerMoncionMoodieMunsonNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSmithTannasWallinWellsWhiteWoo

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Tabling of Documents

The Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., tabled the following:

Supplementary Estimates (B), 2020-21.—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-291.

Introduction and First Reading of Senate Public Bills

The Honourable Senator Jaffer introduced Bill S-215, An Act to amend the Citizenship Act and the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act.

The bill was read the first time.

The Honourable Senator Jaffer moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dasko, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for a second reading two days hence.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Notices of Motions

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith:

That, notwithstanding any provision of the Rules, for the remainder of the current session, the normal duration for Senators’ Statements be 18 minutes.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Tabling of Petitions

The Honourable Senator Jaffer tabled the following petition:

Of Girl Guides of Canada, of the City of Toronto, in the Province of Ontario; praying for the passage of a private Act to replace its Act of incorporation with a new Act that continues the corporation and makes changes relating to its administration.—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-292S.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Orders of the Day

Other Business

Reports of Committees – Other

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Tannas, seconded by the Honourable Senator Patterson, for the adoption of the second report of the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators, entitled Consideration of an inquiry report of the Senate Ethics Officer, presented in the Senate on June 18, 2020, during the First Session of the Forty-third Parliament.

Pursuant to rule 12-30(2), further debate on the motion was adjourned until the next sitting.

Government Business

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 17 and 27 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 1 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Pate moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Boehm:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Human Rights be authorized to examine and report on issues relating to the human rights of federally sentenced persons in the correctional system, with reference to both national and international law and standards, as well as to examine the situation of marginalized or disadvantaged groups in federal prisons, including Black and Indigenous Peoples, racialized persons, women and those with mental health concerns, when and if the committee is formed;

That the papers and evidence received and taken and work accomplished by the committee on this subject during the First Session of the Forty-second Parliament be referred to the committee; and

That the committee submit its final report no later than June 30, 2021.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Dalphond moved, for the Honourable Senator Bernard, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Housakos moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith:

That the Senate of Canada call upon the Government of Canada to immediately condemn the joint Azerbaijani-Turkish aggression against the Republic of Artsakh, uphold the ban on military exports to Turkey, recognize the Republic of Artsakh’s inalienable right to self-determination and, in light of further escalation and continued targeting of innocent Armenian civilians, recognize the independence of the Republic of Artsakh.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Boehm moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dasko, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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The Honourable Senator Saint-Germain moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Oh:

That, for the remainder of the session, and notwithstanding any provision of the Rules, usual practice or previous order:

1.the Standing Committee on National Security and Defence be composed of twelve senators, other than the ex officio members;

2.the Committee of Selection; the Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament; and the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration be empowered to elect up to three deputy chairs;

3.all other committees, except the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators and the joint committees, be empowered to elect up to two deputy chairs;

4.if a committee has elected more than one deputy chair:

(a)the reference to the deputy chair in rule 12-18(2)(b)(ii) be understood as referring to all deputy chairs of the committee acting together;

(b)the reference to the deputy chair in rule 12-23(6) be understood as referring to any deputy chair of the committee acting alone; and

(c)any reference to the deputy chair of a committee in any policy or guideline adopted by the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration be understood as referring to all deputy chairs acting together, until the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration decides otherwise;

5.the Committee of Selection be a standing committee;

6.the Committee of Selection have power to make recommendations to the Senate on issues relating to meetings of either the Senate or committees by videoconference or teleconference, to the coordination of such meetings and to measures that would facilitate or enhance their operations;

7.if a Senate committee establishes a Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, any two members of the subcommittee be authorized to direct the clerk of the committee to convene a meeting of the committee for the purposes of considering a draft agenda by sending a signed letter to the clerk, upon receipt of which the clerk of the committee shall convene a meeting of the committee at the committee’s next meeting time, during a week that the Senate sits, according to the agreed upon schedule for committee meetings that is more than 24 hours after the receipt of the letter;

8.except in the case of the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators:

(a)except as provided in sub-paragraph (b), if a senator ceases to be a member of a particular recognized party or recognized parliamentary group for any reason, he or she simultaneously cease to be a member of any committee of which he or she is then a member, with the resulting vacancy to be filled by the leader or facilitator of the party or group to which the senator had belonged, following the processes established in rule 12-5;

(b)if a senator ceases to be a member of a recognized party or recognized parliamentary group because that party or group ceases to exist, he or she remain a member of any committee of which he or she was a member, subject to the provisions of sub-paragraph (c), but cease to be chair or deputy chair of any committee on which he or she held such a position, and cease to be a member of any Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure of which he or she was a member; and

(c)if a non-affiliated senator becomes a member of a recognized party or recognized parliamentary group, he or she thereby cease to be a member of any committee of which he or she is then a member, with the resulting vacancy to be filled either by order of the Senate or the adoption by the Senate of a report of the Committee of Selection; and

9.any changes to the membership of a committee pursuant to paragraph 8 of this order be recorded in the Journals of the Senate.

After debate,

In amendment, the Honourable Senator Bellemare moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Loffreda:

That the motion be not now adopted, but that it be amended:

(a)adding the word “and” to the end of paragraph 6 in the English version; and

(b)replacing paragraphs 8 and 9 by the following:

“8. except in the case of the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators, a senator who changes their affiliation cease to be chair or deputy chair of any committee on which the Senator held such a position.”.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Dawson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Bovey, that further debate on the motion in amendment be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was negatived on the following vote:

YEAS

The Honourable Senators

BellemareBoveyDalphondDawsonHarderMercer—6

NAYS

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanBattersBlack (Ontario)BoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBussonCarignanCormierCotterDagenaisDaskoDeacon (Ontario)DeanGalvezHousakosJafferKeatingLoffredaMartinMarwahMcPhedranMégieMoncionNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSmithTannasWallinWoo—39

ABSTENTIONS

The Honourable Senators

GagnéGoldLaBoucane-BensonMcCallumMoodie—5

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain, seconded by the Honourable Senator Oh:

That, for the remainder of the session, and notwithstanding any provision of the Rules, usual practice or previous order:

1.the Standing Committee on National Security and Defence be composed of twelve senators, other than the ex officio members;

2.the Committee of Selection; the Standing Committee on Rules, Procedures and the Rights of Parliament; and the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration be empowered to elect up to three deputy chairs;

3.all other committees, except the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators and the joint committees, be empowered to elect up to two deputy chairs;

4.if a committee has elected more than one deputy chair:

(a)the reference to the deputy chair in rule 12-18(2)(b)(ii) be understood as referring to all deputy chairs of the committee acting together;

(b)the reference to the deputy chair in rule 12-23(6) be understood as referring to any deputy chair of the committee acting alone; and

(c)any reference to the deputy chair of a committee in any policy or guideline adopted by the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration be understood as referring to all deputy chairs acting together, until the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration decides otherwise;

5.the Committee of Selection be a standing committee;

6.the Committee of Selection have power to make recommendations to the Senate on issues relating to meetings of either the Senate or committees by videoconference or teleconference, to the coordination of such meetings and to measures that would facilitate or enhance their operations;

7.if a Senate committee establishes a Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure, any two members of the subcommittee be authorized to direct the clerk of the committee to convene a meeting of the committee for the purposes of considering a draft agenda by sending a signed letter to the clerk, upon receipt of which the clerk of the committee shall convene a meeting of the committee at the committee’s next meeting time, during a week that the Senate sits, according to the agreed upon schedule for committee meetings that is more than 24 hours after the receipt of the letter;

8.except in the case of the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators:

(a)except as provided in sub-paragraph (b), if a senator ceases to be a member of a particular recognized party or recognized parliamentary group for any reason, he or she simultaneously cease to be a member of any committee of which he or she is then a member, with the resulting vacancy to be filled by the leader or facilitator of the party or group to which the senator had belonged, following the processes established in rule 12-5;

(b)if a senator ceases to be a member of a recognized party or recognized parliamentary group because that party or group ceases to exist, he or she remain a member of any committee of which he or she was a member, subject to the provisions of sub-paragraph (c), but cease to be chair or deputy chair of any committee on which he or she held such a position, and cease to be a member of any Subcommittee on Agenda and Procedure of which he or she was a member; and

(c)if a non-affiliated senator becomes a member of a recognized party or recognized parliamentary group, he or she thereby cease to be a member of any committee of which he or she is then a member, with the resulting vacancy to be filled either by order of the Senate or the adoption by the Senate of a report of the Committee of Selection; and

9.any changes to the membership of a committee pursuant to paragraph 8 of this order be recorded in the Journals of the Senate.

And on the motion in amendment of the Honourable Senator Bellemare, seconded by the Honourable Senator Loffreda:

That the motion be not now adopted, but that it be amended:

(a)adding the word “and” to the end of paragraph 6 in the English version; and

(b)replacing paragraphs 8 and 9 by the following:

“8. except in the case of the Standing Committee on Ethics and Conflict of Interest for Senators, a senator who changes their affiliation cease to be chair or deputy chair of any committee on which the Senator held such a position.”.

The question being put on the motion in amendment, it was negatived on the following vote:

YEAS

The Honourable Senators

BellemareBoveyDalphondDawsonHarderHousakosMcPhedranMercerMoodie—9

NAYS

The Honourable Senators

AndersonAtaullahjanBattersBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBussonCarignanCotterDagenaisDaskoDeacon (Ontario)DeanJafferKeatingLoffredaMartinMarwahMcCallumMoncionNgoOhOmidvarPatePattersonPetitclercPlettRinguetteSaint-GermainSeidmanSmithTannasWallinWoo—34

ABSTENTIONS

The Honourable Senators

Black (Ontario)CormierGagnéGalvezGoldLaBoucane-BensonMégie—7

QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE

Pursuant to rule 13-4, the Honourable Senator Dalphond raised a question of privilege concerning senators’ ability to participate in sittings of the Senate.

Pursuant to rule 13-5(2), the Senate proceeded to the consideration of the question of privilege of the Honourable Senator Dalphond.

After debate,

The Speaker reserved his decision.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Gagné moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C.:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 7:06 p.m., the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 2 p.m.)

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Reports of the Department of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-257.

Reports of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-258.

Reports of the Correctional Service of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-259.

Reports of the Canada Border Services Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-260.

Fall 2020 reports of the Commissioner of the Environment and Sustainable Development to the Parliament of Canada, pursuant to the Auditor General Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-17, sbs. 23(5).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-261.

Reports of the Civilian Review and Complaints Commission for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-262.

Reports of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police External Review Committee for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-263.

Reports of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-264.

Reports of the Office of the Correctional Investigator of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-265.

Reports of the Parole Board of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-266.

Reports of the Canada Foundation for Innovation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-267.

Reports of the Canadian Space Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-268.

Reports of the Copyright Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-269.

Reports of the National Research Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-270.

Reports of the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-271.

Reports of the Pierre Elliott Trudeau Foundation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-272.

Reports of the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-273.

Reports of the Standards Council of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-274.

Reports of Statistics Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-275.

Reports of Sustainable Development Technology Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-276.

Reports of the Department of Industry for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-277.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy of the Department of Health for 2020-21, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-278.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency for 2020-23, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-279.

Report of the Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse, together with the Auditors’ Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Canadian Centre on Substance Abuse Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. 49 (4th Supp.), sbs. 31(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-280.

Reports of the Information Commissioner of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-281.

Report of the Parole Board of Canada on Record Suspension Decisions for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Criminal Records Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. C-47, sbs. 11(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-282.

Amendment to the Agreement for RCMP policing services (First Nations Community Policing Service) for the province of Alberta, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-283.

Amendment to the Agreement for RCMP policing services (First Nations Community Policing Service) for the province of Prince Edward Island, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-284.

Amendment to the Agreement for RCMP policing services (First Nations Community Policing Service) for the province of Nova Scotia, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-285.

Amendment to the Agreement for RCMP policing services (First Nations Community Policing Service) for the province of New Brunswick, pursuant to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. R-10, sbs. 20(5).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-286.

Reports of the Impact Assessment Agency of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-287.

Summaries of the amended Corporate Plan for 2019-23 and of the Capital Budget for 2019 of the Canada Development Investment Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-288.

Summaries of the Corporate Plan for 2020-21 to 2024-25 and of the Operating and Capital Budgets, and Borrowing Plan for 2020-21 of the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-289.

Report of the Canadian Commercial Corporation, together with the Auditor General’s Report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2020, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).—Sessional Paper No. 2/43-290.