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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
Defence and Security

Issue 2 - Minutes of Proceedings

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OTTAWA, Thursday, July 19, 2001
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on Defence and Security met this day, at 8:45 a.m. in Room 705, Victoria Building, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen, Pépin, Wiebe (8).

In attendance: Grant Purves, Research Officer, Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament, and Mr. Roy Berlinquette, Adviser, Security.

WITNESSES:

From the Department of the Solicitor General:

Mr. Michel D'Avignon, Director General, National Security, Policing and Security Branch;

Ms Annie Leblanc, Acting Director, Technology and Lawful Access Division; and

Mr. Mike Theilmann, Acting Director, Counter-Terrorism Division.

From the Royal Canadian Mounted Police:

Superintendent J. Wayne Pilgrim, Officer in Charge, National Security Investigations Branch, Criminal Intelligence Directorate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, May 31, 2001, the committee proceeded to its introductory survey of the major security and defence issues facing Canada with a view to preparing a detailed work plan for future comprehensive studies. (See Issue No. 1, Monday, July 18, 2001, for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

Mr. D'Avignon made an opening statement then, along with other witnesses, answered questions.

At 10:15 a.m., the committee suspended its meeting.

At 10:30 a.m., the committee resumed its meeting.

Superintendent Pilgrim made an opening statement and answered questions.

At 12:05 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

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OTTAWA, Thursday, July 19, 2001
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on Defence and Security met this day, at 2:15 p.m. in Room 705, Victoria Building, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Forrestall, Kenny, Pépin, Wiebe (7).

Other senator present: The Honourable Senator Stratton (1).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Grant Purves, Research Officer.

WITNESSES:

From the Department of National Defence:

Mr. James Harlick, Assistant Deputy Minister, Office of Critical Infrastructure Protection and Emergency Preparedness;

Mr. Gary O'Bright, Director General, Operations, Office of Critical Infrastructure Protection and Emergency Preparedness; and

Mr. Alan Bartley, Director General, Policy Planning and Readiness, Office of Critical Infrastructure Protection and Emergency Preparedness.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, May 31, 2001, the committee proceeded to its introductory survey of the major security and defence issues facing Canada with a view to preparing a detailed work plan for future comprehensive studies. (See Issue No. 1, Monday July 18, 2001, for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

Mr. Harlick made an opening statement and answered questions.

At 3:45 p.m., the committee continued in camera.

It was moved - That the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs be composed of the following members: the Honourable Senators Meighen (Chair), Wiebe (Deputy Chair), Atkins, Pépin, Kenny, ex-officio.

The question being put on motion, it was resolved in the affirmative.

At 3:53 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Barbara Reynolds

Clerk of the Committee

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