SECD - Standing Committee

National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs

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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue 12 - Minutes of Proceedings

OTTAWA, Monday, March 17, 2003
(22)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day, at 9:30 a.m. in room 160-S (Subcommittee Room), Centre Block, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Forrestall, Kenny and Smith, P.C. (6).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Grant Purves and Grant Dawson, Analysts; Major General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Adviser; Lieutenant-Colonel David Belovich, DND Liaison Officer; Veronica Morris, Communications Officer.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

The committee considered its future agenda in camera.

At 9:58 a.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 10:00 a.m., the committee continued its meeting in public in room 160-S, Centre Block.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Wednesday, October 30, 2002, the committee proceeded upon its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No. 1, Monday, November 4, 2002, for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

From the Department of National Defence:

Major-General Pierre Daigle, MSC, CD, Special Advisor to the Chief of Defence Staff (Homeland Security Issues);

Colonel Rick Williams, Director, Western Hemisphere Policy, Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy Branch.

From the Privy Council Office:

Mr. Robert Fonberg, Deputy Secretary to the cabinet, Operations;

Mr. Graham Flack, Director of Operations, Borders Task Force.

Major-General Daigle made a statement and responded to questions.

Colonel Rick Williams made a statement and responded to questions.

At 11:45 a.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 11:50 a.m., the committee resumed its sitting.

Mr. Fonberg made a statement and with Mr. Flack responded to questions.

Pursuant to the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 28, 2002, the following material was filed as exhibits with the Clerk.

  • [``Enhanced Canada-US Military Cooperation Background Material for the Senate Committee on National Security and Defence'' by Major-General Pierre Daigle and Colonel Rick Williams, March 17, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 12, ``46'')

  • [``Material from Robert Fonberg, Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Operations, Privy Council Office'' March 17, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 12, ``47'')

At 1:05 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

OTTAWA, Monday, March 17, 2003
(23)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day, at 1:10 p.m. in room 160-S (Subcommittee Room), Centre Block, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Forrestall, Kenny and Smith, P.C. (6).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Grant Purves and Grant Dawson, Analysts; Major General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Adviser; Lieutenant-Colonel David Belovich, DND Liaison Officer; Veronica Morris, Communications Officer.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

The committee considered its future agenda in camera.

At 2:08 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 2:10 p.m., the committee continued its meeting in public in room 160-S, Centre Block.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Wednesday, October 30, 2002, the committee proceeded upon its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No. 1, Monday, November 4, 2002, for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

From the Department of Citizenship and Immigration Canada:

Mr. Daniel Jean, Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy and Program Development;

Mr. Bruce Scoffield, Director, Policy Development and International Coordination, Refugees Branch;

Ms. Caroline Melis, Director, Program Development, Enforcement Branch.

From the Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade:

Mr. Jon Allen, Director General, North America Bureau;

Ms. Jill Sinclair, Director General, International Security Bureau.

Mr. Jean made a statement and with Mr. Scoffield and Ms. Melis responded to questions.

At 3:32 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 3:37 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting.

Mr. Allen made a statement and with Ms. Sinclair responded to questions.

At 3:55 Senator Forrestall, Deputy Chair, presided.

At 4:45 Senator Kenny, Chair, presided.

Pursuant to the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 28, 2002, the following material was filed as exhibits with the Clerk.

  • [``Opening Remarks by Daniel Jean, Acting Assistant Deputy Minister, Policy and Program Development, Citizenship and Immigration Canada'', March 17, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 12, ``48'')

  • [``Letter from Ronald Bilodeau, Associate Secretary to the Cabinet, Deputy Minister to the Deputy Prime Minister and Security and Intelligence Co-ordinator, Privy Council Office''] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 12, ``49'')

  • [``Canada and the United States, A Strong Partnership, Department of Foreign Affairs and International Trade'', March 17, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 12, ``50'')

  • [``Military Family Services Program, Canadian Forces Personnel Support Agency, Department of National Defence'', March 17, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 12, ``51'')

At 5:00 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 5:02 p.m., the committee continued its meeting in camera in room 160-S (Subcommittee Room), Centre Block.

The committee considered its future agenda.

At 5:45 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Barbara Reynolds

Clerk of the Committee