Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue 6 - Minutes of Proceedings

TORONTO, Thursday, December 2, 2004
(12)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day in camera, at 8:10 a.m., in the Lombard Room, 89 Chestnut, University of Toronto, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Day, Forrestall, Kenny and Meighen (7).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: William Price, Analyst; Major General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Advisor; Captain (N) Kenneth Stewart, DND Liaison Officer; Sergeant Harold O'Connell, RCMP Liaison Officer; Barry Denofsky, National Security Advisor; and Veronica Morris, Communications Officer.

In accordance with rule 92(2)(e), the committee considered its draft agenda.

At 8:38 a.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 8:47 a.m., the committee resumed its sitting in public in the Giovanni Room A, 89 Chestnut, University of Toronto.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Wednesday, October 20, 2004, the committee continued its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No. 1, Monday, October 25, 2004, of the committee's proceedings for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

COMPAS:

Conrad Winn, President and CEO.

York University:

David Dewitt, Director, Centre for International and Security Studies;

Martin Shadwick, Research Associate, Centre for International and Security Studies, Professor of Political Science.

The Chair made an opening statement.

Conrad Winn made a presentation and answered questions.

At 9:35 a.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 9:39 a.m., the committee resumed its sitting

David Dewitt made a presentation and answered questions.

At 10:53 a.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 11:07 a.m., the committee resumed its sitting.

Martin Shadwick made a presentation and answered questions.

At 12:08 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 12:15 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting with Senator Forrestall assuming the chair.

It was agreed that the Chair be authorized to conduct a fact-finding activity at Pearson airport on December 3, 2004; and

That his findings be reported to the committee.

At 12:30 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

TORONTO, Thursday, December 2, 2004
(13)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 1:03 p.m., in the Giovanni Room, 89 Chestnut, University of Toronto, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Day, Forrestall, Kenny and Meighen (6).

WITNESSES:

Pollara:

Michael Marzolini, Chairman and CEO.

As individuals:

Brigadier-General J.G. Marc Lessard, Commander, Land Force Central Area, Department of National Defence;

Brigadier-General G.A. Young, (Res), Deputy Commander, Land Force Central Area, Department of National Defence.

The Chair made an opening statement.

Michael Marzolini made a presentation and answered questions.

At 2:18 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 2:22 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting

Brigadier-General Marc Lessard and Brigadier-General Greg Young each made a presentation and answered questions.

At 3:27 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Daniel Charbonneau

Clerk of the Committee

Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence

Issue 6 - Minutes of Proceedings

Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence