Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue No. 15 - Minutes of Proceedings - June 5, 2017

OTTAWA, Monday, June 5, 2017
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day at 12:59 p.m., in room 2, Victoria Building, the chair, the Honourable Daniel Lang, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Beyak, Boisvenu, Dagenais, Harder, P.C., Jaffer, Kenny, Lang, Lankin, P.C., McPhedran, Moncion, Pate, Saint-Germain and White (13).

Other senators present: The Honourable Senators Day, Griffin and Wetston (3).

In attendance: Mireille Laforge, Committees Directorate.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the Senate on Tuesday, May 30, 2017, the committee began its examination of Bill C-22, An Act to establish the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians and to make consequential amendments to certain Acts.

APPEARING:

The Honourable Ralph Goodale, P.C., M.P., Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness;

The Honourable Bardish Chagger, P.C., M.P., Leader of the Government in the House of Commons.

WITNESSES:

Privy Council Office:

Ian McCowan, Deputy Secretary to the Cabinet, Governance;

Heather Sheehy, Director of Operations, Machinery of Government.

Public Safety Canada:

Malcolm Brown, Deputy Minister.

As individuals:

Lieutenant-General (Retired) the Honourable Roméo Dallaire, former senator (by video conference);

The Honourable Hugh Segal, former senator.

Office of the Privacy Commissioner of Canada:

Daniel Therrien, Privacy Commissioner of Canada.

The chair made a statement.

Minister Goodale and Minister Chagger each made a statement and, together with Mr. McCowan, Ms. Sheehy and Mr. Brown, answered questions.

At 2:43 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 2:51 p.m., the committee resumed.

Lieutenant-General (Retired) the Honourable Roméo Dallaire and the Honourable Hugh Segal each made a statement and, together, answered questions.

At 3:44 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 3:50 p.m., the committee resumed.

Mr. Therrien made a statement and answered questions.

At 4:23 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 4:25 p.m., pursuant to rule 12-16(1)(d), the committee resumed in camera for the consideration a draft report.

Pursuant to the order of reference adopted by the Senate on Monday, May 8, 2017, the committee continued its examination of the subject matter of those elements contained in Divisions 12 and 19 of Part 4 of Bill C-44, An Act to implement certain provisions of the budget tabled in Parliament on March 22, 2017 and other measures. (For complete text of the order of reference, see proceedings of the committee, Issue No. 14.)

It was agreed that senators' staff be permitted to remain in the room for today's meeting.

It was agreed that the report be adopted as amended.

At 5:02 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the chair.

ATTEST:

Adam Thompson

Clerk of the Committee