The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonArnotAtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBrazeauBussonCarignanCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanForestFrancisGagnéGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarOslerPatePatterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenVernerWallinWhiteWooYussuff

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AndersonArnotAtaullahjanAudetteBattersBellemareBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBrazeau*BureyBussonCarignanCordyCormierCotterCoyleDagenaisDalphondDasko*Deacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncan*DupuisForestFrancisGagnéGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosJaffer*KlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMocklerMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarOslerPatePatterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenVernerWallin*WellsWhiteWooYussuff

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Tabling of Documents

The Honourable the Speaker tabled the following:

Rules of the Senate of Canada, dated September 2023.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1947S.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Second Reading

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., for the second reading of Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Interpretation Act and to make related amendments to other Acts.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Audette, that the bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Order No. 2 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Ordered, That motion No. 131 standing in the name of the Honourable Senator Moncion on the Notice Paper be brought forward.

The Honourable Senator Moncion moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dalphond:

That, in light of the adoption of the Financial Policy for Senate Committees by the Standing Committee on Internal Economy, Budgets and Administration on June 1, 2023, the Senate Administrative Rules be amended in Chapter 3:05

(a)by repealing the heading before section 1, section 1, subsections 10(2) and (3) and section 11; and

(b)by replacing the heading before section 2 and subsections 2(1) and (2) with the following:

“Committee Budgets

2. (1) A committee budget for special expenses must be

(a) adopted by the committee;

(b) submitted by the committee to the Internal Economy Committee for its consideration; and

(c) presented to the Senate by committee report, with the budget and a report of the Internal Economy Committee attached.

(2) A budget prepared for the purposes of subsection (1) must contain a detailed estimate of the committee’s special expenses for the fiscal year.”; and

That the Law Clerk and Parliamentary Counsel be authorized to make any necessary technical, editorial, grammatical, or other required, non-substantive changes to the Senate Administrative Rules as a result of these amendments, including the updating of cross-references and the renumbering of provisions.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 1, 126 and 127 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 3, 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Other Business

Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator McPhedran, seconded by the Honourable Senator White, for the second reading of Bill S-201, An Act to amend the Canada Elections Act and the Regulation Adapting the Canada Elections Act for the Purposes of a Referendum (voting age).

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Seidman, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Patterson (Nunavut), seconded by the Honourable Senator Tannas, for the second reading of Bill S-228, An Act to amend the Constitution Act, 1867 (property qualifications of Senators).

Ordered: That further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Housakos.

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Orders No. 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 and 32 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Commons Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Second reading of Bill C-288, An Act to amend the Telecommunications Act (transparent and accurate broadband services information).

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Marshall, that the bill be read the second time.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Downe moved, for the Honourable Senator Patterson (Nunavut), seconded by the Honourable Senator Wallin, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Audette:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 3:34 p.m., the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 2 p.m.)

DECLARATIONS OF PRIVATE INTERESTS

Pursuant to rule 15-7(1) and subsection 12(1) of the Ethics and Conflict of Interest Code for Senators, a declaration of private interest was made as follows:

The Honourable Senator Jaffer, respecting Bill C-282, An Act to amend the Department of Foreign Affairs, Trade and Development Act (supply management), by written declaration.

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Reports of the Office of the Commissioner of Lobbying for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1944.

Reports of the Chief Electoral Officer for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2023, pursuant to the Access to Information Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1, sbs. 94(2) and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1945.

Legislative Costing Note of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer entitled Investment tax for clean technology manufacturing, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-1946.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The Honourable Senator Pate was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (September 27, 2023).

The Honourable Senator Petitclerc replaced the Honourable Senator MacAdam (September 27, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Coyle replaced the Honourable Senator Clement (September 27, 2023).

Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs

The Honourable Senator Kutcher was added to the membership (September 27, 2023).