SECD - Standing Committee

National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs

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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue 17 - Minutes of Proceedings

OTTAWA, Monday, June 11, 2007
(29)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day in camera at 3:46 p.m. in room 7, Victoria Building, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Day, Kenny, Moore and Zimmer (5).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Steven James, Melissa Radford and Jason Yung, Analysts; Barry Denofsky, National Security Advisor; Major-General (ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Advisor; and Captain (N) John Gardam, DND Liaison Officer.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, April 27, 2006, the committee continued its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No.1, Tuesday, April 25, 2006, of the committee's proceedings for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

As individuals:

David Charters;

Gavin Cameron;

John Ferris;

James Gould;

Wesley Wark;

Stuart Farson;

Al Hensler;

Jim Corcoran;

Bob Brule.

In accordance with rule 92(2)(e), the committee considered its draft agenda.

It was agreed that the committee adopt the report of the Subcommittee on Veterans Affairs entitled An Enduring Controversy: The Strategic Bombing Display in the Canadian War Museum.

At 4:00 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 4:10 p.m., the committee resumed in public in room 505.

David Charters, Gavin Cameron, John Ferris and James Gould each made a presentation and answered questions.

At 5:17 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 5:22 p.m., the committee resumed.

Wesley Wark, Stuart Farson, Al Hensler, Jim Corcoran and Bob Brule each made a presentation and answered questions.

At 6:10 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

OTTAWA, Monday, June 18, 2007
(30)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day in camera at 9:45 a.m. in room 7, Victoria Building, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Banks, Day, Kenny, Moore and Zimmer (5).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Steven James, Analyst; Barry Denofsky, National Security Advisor; and Major-General (ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Advisor.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Thursday, April 27, 2006, the committee continued its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No. 1, Tuesday, April 25, 2006, of the committee's proceedings for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

Ontario Provincial Police:

Julian Fantino, Commissioner;

Detective Staff Sergeant Pat J. Morris.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police:

Mike McDonnell, Assistant Commissioner, National Security Criminal Investigations.

Security Intelligence Review Committee:

Susan Pollak, Executive Director;

Tim Farr, Associate Executive Director;

Marian McGrath, Senior Counsel.

Privy Council Office:

Gregory Fyffe, Executive Director, International Assessment Staff.

In accordance with rule 92(2)(e), the committee considered its draft agenda.

At 10:00 a.m., the committee suspended.

At 10:05 a.m., the committee resumed in public in room 2.

Julian Fantino made a presentation and answered questions with Pat J. Morris.

At 11:50 a.m., the committee suspended.

At 12:00 p.m., the committee resumed.

Mike McDonnell made a presentation and answered questions.

At 1:00 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 1:05 p.m., the committee resumed in camera in room 705.

In accordance with rule 92(2)(e), the committee considered its draft agenda.

At 1:55 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 2:05 p.m., the committee resumed in public in room 2.

Susan Pollak made a presentation and answered questions with Tim Farr and Marian McGrath.

At 3:35 p.m., the committee suspended.

At 3:40 p.m., the committee resumed.

Gregory Fyffe made a presentation and answered questions.

The following material was filed as exhibits with the Clerk:

  • [Ontario Provincial Police, Julian Fantino, Commissioner, Opening Remarks June 18, 2007] (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "71'')
  • [Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness Canada, The Honourable Stockwell Day, P.C., M.P. Minister, May 29th, 2007 reply to letter of November 17, 2006 regarding the number of critical incident reports filed by CBSA officers in 2003-2005] (5900-1.39/N2- SS-1-7 28 "72'')
  • [Privy Council Office, Margaret Bloodworth, National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary, Reply to question taken on notice at the meeting of March 26, 2007] (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "73'')
  • [Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Mike McDonnell, Assistant Commissioner, Information for presentation to the Committee] (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "74'')
  • [Privy Council Office, Gregory Fyffe, Executive Director, International Assessment Staff, Opening Remarks June 18, 2007] (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "75'')
  • [Auditor General of Canada, Sheila Fraser, Chapter 6 of report tabled on May 1, 2007, "Modernizing the NORAD System in Canada — National Defence''] (5900-1.39/N2-SS- 1-7 28 "76'')
  • [Auditor General of Canada, Sheila Fraser, A Status Report of the Auditor General of Canada to the House of Commons] (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "77'')
  • [Canada Border Services Agency, Alain Jolicoeur, President, Reply to question taken on notice at meeting of June 19, 2006] (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "78'')
  • [Office of the Independent Investigator into RCMP Pension and Insurance Matters, Report entitled "A Matter of Trust: Report of the Independent Investigator into Matters Relating to RCMP Pension and Insurance Plans'', June 15, 2007]
    (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "79'')
  • [Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Bev Busson, Commissioner, Reply to question taken on notice at the meeting of April 30, 2007] (5900-1.39/N2-SS-1-7 28 "80'')
  • At 4:25 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Jodi Turner

Clerk of the Committee