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National Security, Defence and Veterans Affairs

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Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on
National Security and Defence

Issue 23 - Minutes of Proceedings

QUEBEC, Wednesday, September 24, 2003
(43)

[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day, at 10:40 a.m. in Kébec Room, Base Valcartier, Quebec, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen, Smith, P.C. and Wiebe (8).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Grant Dawson, Analyst; Major General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Adviser; Chief Warrant Officer (Ret'd) Maurice Dessureault; Commander Gerry Powell; Superintendent Gerry Doucet, RCMP Liaison Officer; Veronica Morris, Communications Officer.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Wednesday, October 30, 2002, the committee proceeded upon its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No. 1, Monday, November 4, 2002, for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

From the 5th Canadian Mechanized Brigade, Canadian Forces Base Valcartier:

Colonel Jocelyn P.P.J. Lacroix, Commander, 5th Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group;

Chief Warrant Officer J.S.M. Ouellet, 5th Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group;

Lieutenant-Colonel Jean Frappier, Commander, 12th Canadian Armoured Regiment;

Chief Warrant Officer Mario Belcourt, 12th Canadian Armoured Regiment;

Lieutenant-Colonel François Riffou, Commander, 1st Battalion, 22nd Royal Regiment;

Chief Warrant Officer André Landry, 1st Battalion, 22nd Royal Regiment;

Lieutenant-Colonel Bernard Ouellette, Commander, 2nd Battalion, 22nd Royal Regiment;

Chief Warrant Officer Camil Samson, 2nd Battalion, 22nd Royal Regiment.

Colonel Lacroix made a statement and responded to questions.

Lieutenant-Colonel Frappier made a statement and responded to questions.

Lieutenant-Colonel Riffou made a statement and responded to questions.

Lieutenant-Colonel Ouellette made a statement and responded to questions.

Pursuant to the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 28, 2002, the following material was filed as exhibits with the Clerk.

  • [Presentation by Colonel Jocelyn Lacroix, Commander, 5th Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group, September 24, 3003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``114'')
  • [12th Canadian Armoured Regiment, LCol. Frappier, Commander, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/ N2-SS-1, 23, ``115'')
  • [1st Battalion Royal 22 Regiment, LCol. François Riffou, Commander, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900- 2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``116'')
  • [2nd Battalion Royal 22 Regiment, LCol. Bernard Ouellette, Commander, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``117'')

At 12 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

QUEBEC, Wednesday, September 24, 2003
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day, at 1:10 p.m. in Kébec Room, Base Valcartier, Quebec, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Cordy, Forrestall, Kenny, Meighen, Smith, P.C. and Wiebe (8).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Grant Dawson, Analyst; Major General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Adviser; Chief Warrant Officer (Ret'd) Maurice Dessureault; Commander Gerry Powell; Superintendent Gerry Doucet, RCMP Liaison Officer; Veronica Morris, Communications Officer.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Wednesday, October 30, 2002, the committee proceeded upon its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No. 1, Monday, November 4, 2002, for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

From Canadian Force Base Valcartier:

Lieutenant-Colonel Eric Tremblay, Commander, 5th Canadian Light Artillery Regiment;

Chief Warrant Officer Christian Desrosiers, 5th Canadian Light Artillery Regiment;

Lieutenant-Colonel Sylvain Sirois, Commander, 5th Combat Engineer Regiment;

Chief Warrant Officer Gilles Arcand, 5th Combat Engineer Regiment;

Major Rénald Dufour, Commander, 58th Air Defence Battery;

Master Warrant Officer Marc-André Ross, 58th Air Defence Battery;

Major Luc Lafrenière, Commander, Headquarters and Signal Squadron;

Chief Warrant Officer Daniel Laprade, Headquarters and Signal Squadron;

Major Michel Ouellet, Acting Commanding Officer, 5th Canadian Service Battalion;

Chief Warrant Officer Stéphane Richard, 5th Canadian Service Battalion;

Captain J.R.A. Bissonnette, Commander, 5th Military Police Platoon;

Warrant Officer Michel Bernier, 5th Military Police Platoon;

Lieutenant-Colonel Danielle Savard, Commander, 5th Field Ambulance;

Chief Warrant Officer Donald Noël, 5th Field Ambulance;

Lieutenant-Colonel Pierre St-Cyr, Commander, Support Unit, 430th Helicopters Squadron;

Chief Warrant Officer Daniel McCoy, Support Unit, 430th Helicopters Squadron.

Lieutenant-Colonel Tremblay made a statement and responded to questions.

Lieutenant-Colonel Sirois made a statement and responded to questions.

Major Dufour made a statement and responded to questions.

At 2:10 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 2:12 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting.

Major Lafrenière made a statement and responded to questions.

Major Ouellet made a statement and responded to questions.

Captain Bissonnette made a statement and responded to questions.

At 3:15 p.m., the committee suspended its sitting.

At 3:55 p.m., the committee resumed its sitting.

The Deputy Chair assumed the Chair.

Lieutenant-Colonel Savard made a statement and with Chief Warrant Officer Noël responded to questions.

Lieutenant-Colonel St-Cyr made a statement and responded to questions.

Pursuant to the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 28, 2002, the following material was filed as exhibits with the Clerk.

  •  [Presentation by LCol. Danielle Savard, Commander, 5 Field Ambulance, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``118'')
  •  [Presentation by LCol. Pierre St-Cyr, Commander, Support Unit 430 Helicopters Squadron, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``119'')
  •  [Presentation by Major Luc Lafrenière, Commander, Headquarters and Signal Squadron, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``120'')
  •  [Material by LCol. Carignan, 5 Canadian Service Battalion, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS- 1, 23, ``121'')
  •  [Presentation by Captain J.R.A. Bissonnette, Commander, 5 Military Police Platoon, September 24,2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``122'')
  •  [Presentation by Major Rénald Dufour, Commander, 58 Air Defence Battery, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``123'')
  •  [Presentation by LCol. Eric Tremblay, Commander, 5 Canadian Light Artillery Regiment, September 24,2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``124'')
  •  [Presentation by LCol. Sylvain Sirois, Commander, 5 Combat Engineer Regiment, September 24, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``125'')

At 5 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

QUEBEC, Thursday, September 25, 2003
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Security and Defence met this day, at 1:55 p.m. in Kébec Room, Base Valcartier, Quebec, the Chair, the Honourable Colin Kenny, presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Atkins, Banks, Forrestall, Kenny, Smith, P.C. and Wiebe (6).

In attendance: From the Parliamentary Research Branch, Library of Parliament: Grant Dawson, Analyst; Major General (Ret'd) Keith McDonald, Senior Military Adviser; Chief Warrant Officer (Ret'd) Maurice Dessureault; Commander Gerry Powell; Superintendent Gerry Doucet, RCMP Liaison Officer; Veronica Morris, Communications Officer.

Also present: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on Wednesday, October 30, 2002, the committee proceeded upon its examination on the need for a national security policy for Canada. (See Issue No. 1, Monday, November 4, 2002, for the full text of the Order of Reference.)

WITNESSES:

From the Department of National Defence:

Captain (N) Viateur Tremblay, Deputy Commander, Naval Reserve;

Captain (N) David Edmonds, Chief of Staff Personnel & Training, Naval Reserve;

Commander Kimberley Kubeck, project Manager, Naval Control of Shipping — Intelligence;

Lieutenant-Commander Daniel Garnon, Comptroller;

Lieutenant-Commander Mireille Moutillet, Senior Staff Officer Policy.

Captain (N) Tremblay made a statement and with other witnesses responded to questions.

Pursuant to the motion adopted by the committee on Monday, October 28, 2002, the following material was filed as exhibits with the Clerk.

  • [Material by Commodore William F. O'Connell, Commander Naval Reserve, September 25, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``126'')
  • [Material by The Naval Reserve in Québec City, September 25, 2003] (Exhibit 5900-2.37/N2-SS-1, 23, ``127'')

At 3:40 p.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Barbara Reynolds

Clerk of the Committee