Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on 
National Finance

Issue 14 - Minutes of Proceedings

OTTAWA, Tuesday, September 16, 2003
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[English]

The Standing Senate Committee on National Finance met at 9:01 a.m, this day, in room 705, Victoria Building, the Chair, the Honourable Senator Murray, P.C., presiding.

Members of the committee present: The Honourable Senators Biron, Chaput, Comeau, Day, Doody, Ferretti-Barth, Finnerty, Gauthier, Kinsella, Mahovlich, Murray, P.C. and Oliver (12).

Other senators present: The Honourable Senators Beaudoin and Cools (2).

In attendance: Mr. Guy Beaumier, and Stephen Laurent, Research Officers, Library of Parliament.

Also in attendance: The official reporters of the Senate.

Pursuant to the Order of Reference adopted by the Senate on June 13, 2003, the committee continued its consideration of Bill C-25, the Public Service Modernization Act.

APPEARING:

The Honourable Lucienne Robillard, P.C., M.P., President of the Treasury Board of Canada.

WITNESSES:

From the Treasury Board of Canada:

Jim Judd, Secretary of the Treasury Board and Comptroller General of Canada;

Monique Boudrias, Assistant Deputy Minister, Task Force on Modernizing Human Resources Management in the Public Service;

Michel LeFrançois, General Counsel, Task Force on Modernizing Human Resources Management in the Public Service.

From the Department of Justice:

William Pentney, Senior General Counsel, Public Law Policy Section, Policy Sector;

Henry L. Molot, Q.C., Senior General Counsel, Constitutional and Administrative Law.

From the Canada Customs and Revenue Agency:

Dan G.J. Tucker, Assistant Commissioner, Human Resources Branch;

Paul Burkholder, Deputy Assistant Commissioner, Human Resources Branch.

From the Public Service Integrity Office:

Dr. Edward Keyserlingk, Public Service Integrity Officer;

Pierre Martel, Executive Director.

The Honourable Lucienne Robillard made an opening statement and with Mr. Jim Judd, Ms. Monique Boudrias, Mr. William Pentney Mr. Henry L. Molot and Mr. Michel LeFrançois answered questions from members of the committee.

Mr. Dan G.J. Tucker made an opening statement and with Mr. Paul Burkholder answered questions from members of the committee.

Dr. Edward Keyserlingk made an opening statement and with Mr. Pierre Martel answered questions from members of the committee.

After discussion it was agreed that the committee would undertake clause-by-clause consideration of Bill C-25 on Wednesday September 17, 2003 at 6:15 p.m.

After discussion it was agreed that the committee return an amount of $26,000 from its budget to the Committee on Internal Economy and Budgets.

At 11:44 a.m., the committee adjourned to the call of the Chair.

ATTEST:

Tõnu Onu

Clerk of the Committee