50 Elizabeth II, A.D. 2001, Canada

Journals of the Senate

1st Session, 37th Parliament

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Issue 54

Thursday, September 27, 2001
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable Daniel Hays, Speaker

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The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Atkins, Bacon, Beaudoin, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Finnerty, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, Kirby, LaPierre, LeBreton, Léger, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, Milne, Moore, Morin, Murray, Nolin, Pearson, Pépin, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robichaud, Rompkey, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Sparrow, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Tunney, Wilson

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

Adams, Andreychuk, Atkins, Bacon, Beaudoin, Bolduc, Bryden, Buchanan, Callbeck, Carstairs, Chalifoux, Christensen, Comeau, Cook, Cools, Corbin, Cordy, De Bané, Di Nino, Doody, Fairbairn, Finnerty, Fraser, Furey, Gauthier, Graham, Gustafson, Hays, Hervieux-Payette, Hubley, Joyal, Kelleher, Kenny, Keon, *Kinsella, Kirby, LaPierre, LeBreton, Léger, Losier-Cool, Lynch-Staunton, Maheu, *Mahovlich, Milne, Moore, Morin, Murray, Nolin, Pearson, Pépin, Poulin (Charette), Poy, Prud'homme, Rivest, Robichaud, Rompkey, Setlakwe, Sibbeston, Sparrow, Stollery, Stratton, Taylor, Tkachuk, Tunney, Wilson

PRAYERS

 

SENATORS' STATEMENTS

Pursuant to Rule 43(7), the Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton gave notice that he would raise a question of privilege with respect to statements made by the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration regarding Bill C-11 presently before the Senate.

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

 

DAILY ROUTINE OF BUSINESS

Presentation of Reports from Standing or Special Committees

The Honourable Senator Chalifoux, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, tabled its Fourth Report entitled: Northern Parks - A New Way.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-424S.

 

ANSWERS TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS

Pursuant to Rule 25(2), the Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., tabled the following:

Reply to Question No. 1, dated February 7, 2001, appearing on the Order Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Comeau, respecting land border stores.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-425S.

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With leave,

The Senate reverted to Tabling of Reports from Inter-Parliamentary Delegations.

The Honourable Senator Losier-Cool, tabled the following:

Report of the Canadian Section of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie respecting its participation at the APF Bureau meeting, held in Quebec City, Quebec, on July 6, 2001.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-426.

Report of the Canadian Section of the Assemblée parlementaire de la Francophonie respecting its participation at the XXVIIth Ordinary Session of the APF, held in Quebec City, Quebec, from July 8 to 10, 2001.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-427.

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With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Chalifoux moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Milne:

That the Fourth Report of the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, tabled early this day, be placed on the Orders of the Day for consideration at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

ORDERS OF THE DAY

GOVERNMENT BUSINESS

Bills

Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Cordy, seconded by the Honourable Senator Morin, for the second reading of Bill C-11, An Act respecting immigration to Canada and the granting of refugee protection to persons who are displaced, persecuted or in danger.

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

The Bill was then read the second time.

The Honourable Senator Cordy moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator LaPierre, that the Bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology.

With leave of the Senate,

After debate,

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted, on division.

Orders No. 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

 

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

 

OTHER BUSINESS

Senate Public Bills

Orders No. 1 to 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

 

Reports of Committees

Orders No. 1 to 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

 

Other

Orders No. 6, 11 (inquiries), 65 (motion), 10, 22, 23 (inquiries), 73, 44 (motions), 8 (inquiry), 54, 41 (motions), 7 (inquiry), 3 (motion), 18, 20 and 13 (inquiries) were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Resuming debate on the inquiry of the Honourable Senator Callbeck calling the attention of the Senate to the status of legal aid in Canada and the difficulties experienced by many low-income Canadians in acquiring adequate legal assistance, for both criminal and civil matters.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Hubley moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Wilson, that further debate on the inquiry be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

QUESTION OF PRIVILEGE

Pursuant to Rule 43(8), the Senate proceeded to the consideration of the question of privilege of the Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton with respect to statements made by the Minister of Citizenship and Immigration regarding Bill C-11 presently before the Senate.

After debate,

The Speaker reserved his decision.

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Lynch-Staunton tabled the following:

Transcript entitled: Security at the Border. (English text)-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-428S.

 

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Chalifoux moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Christensen:

That the Standing Senate Committee on Aboriginal Peoples, pursuant to the input it has received from urban Aboriginal people and organizations, be authorized to examine and report upon issues affecting urban Aboriginal youth in Canada. In particular, the Committee shall be authorized to examine access, provision and delivery of services; policy and jurisdictional issues; employment and education; access to economic opportunities; youth participation and empowerment; and other related matters;

That the Committee report to the Senate no later than June 28, 2002; and

That the Committee be authorized, notwithstanding customary practice, to table its report to the Clerk of the Senate if the Senate is not sitting, and that a report so tabled be deemed to have been tabled in the Senate.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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With leave,

The Senate reverted to Government Notices of Motions.

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Graham, P.C.:

That when the Senate adjourns today, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday next, October 2, 2001, at 2:00 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

 

REPORTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 28(2):

Report on Loans to Immigrants for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Immigration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. I-2, sbs. 119(4).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-410.

Reports of the Immigration and Refugee Board for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-411.

Reports of Citizenship and Immigration Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-412.

Report of Ridley Terminals Inc., together with the Auditor General's report, for the year 2000, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-413.

Summary of the Corporate Plan for 2001-05 of Ridley Terminals Inc., pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 125(4).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-414.

Report of the National Capital Commission for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-415.

Report of the Canadian Museum of Civilization Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-416.

Report of the Canadian Museum of Nature for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-417.

Report of the National Gallery of Canada for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-418.

Report of the National Museum of Science and Technology Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Alternative Fuels Act, S.C. 1995, c. 20, s. 8.-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-419.

Reports of the Department of Finance for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-420.

Report of the Canadian Commercial Corporation, together with the Auditor General's report, for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Financial Administration Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. F-11, sbs. 150(1).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-421.

Report of the Export Development Corporation for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-422.

Reports of the Northern Pipeline Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2001, pursuant to the Access to Information Act and to the Privacy Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. A-1 and P-21, sbs. 72(2).-Sessional Paper No. 1/37-423.

 

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator Robichaud, P.C., moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Adams:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 3:55 p.m. the Senate was continued until Tuesday next, October 2, 2001, at 2:00 p.m.)

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Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 85(4)

Standing Senate Committee on Defence and Security

The name of the Honourable Senator LaPierre substituted for that of the Honourable Senator Pépin (September 27).

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