Journals of the Senate
2 Charles III , A.D. 2023, Canada
1st Session, 44th Parliament
Issue 172 (Unrevised)
Thursday, December 14, 2023
2 p.m.
The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker
The Members convened were:
The Honourable Senators
AndersonArnotAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarOslerPatePatterson (Nunavut)Patterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettPoirierProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVernerWallinWellsWhiteWooYussuff
The Members in attendance to business were:
The Honourable Senators
AndersonArnotAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBoisvenuBonifaceBoyerBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanDupuisForestFrancisGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneGreenwoodHarderHartlingHousakosJafferKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOhOmidvarOslerPatePatterson (Nunavut)Patterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenPlettPoirierProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRossSaint-GermainSeidmanSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVernerWallinWellsWhiteWooYussuff
The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.
An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.
PRAYERS
Senators’ Statements
Some Honourable Senators made statements.
ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS
Tabling of Reports from Interparliamentary Delegations
The Honourable Senator MacDonald tabled the following:
Report of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group, Midwestern Legislative Conference – Council of State Governments, Wichita, Kansas, United States of America, July 10 to 13, 2022.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2495.
Report of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group, Council of State Governments East’s 61st Annual Meeting, Manchester, New Hampshire, United States of America, August 14 to 17, 2022.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2496.
Report of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group, Bilateral Visit with Members of the United States Senate, Washington, D.C., United States of America, from May 15 to 16, 2023.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2497.
Report of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group, Western Governors’ Association Annual Meeting, Boulder, Colorado, United States of America, from June 26 to 28, 2023.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2498.
Report of the Canada-United States Inter-Parliamentary Group, Council of State Governments Midwestern Legislative Conference, Detroit, Michigan, United States of America, from July 9 to 12, 2023.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2499.
Question Period
The Senate proceeded to Question Period.
Orders of the Day
Government Business
Bills – Third Reading
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson, seconded by the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., for the third reading of Bill S-13, An Act to amend the Interpretation Act and to make related amendments to other Acts.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The bill was then read the third time.
Ordered, That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed this bill, to which it desires its concurrence.
Third reading of Bill S-14, An Act to amend the Canada National Parks Act, the Canada National Marine Conservation Areas Act, the Rouge National Urban Park Act and the National Parks of Canada Fishing Regulations, as amended.
The Honourable Senator Sorensen moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Duncan, that the bill, as amended, be read for a third time.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The bill, as amended, was then read the third time.
Ordered, That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed this bill, to which it desires its concurrence.
Third reading of Bill C-56, An Act to amend the Excise Tax Act and the Competition Act.
The Honourable Senator Forest moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Miville-Dechêne, that the bill be read for a third time.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The bill was then read the third time and passed.
Ordered, That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed this bill, without amendment.
Order No. 5 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Bills – Second Reading
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Klyne, seconded by the Honourable Senator Harder, P.C., for the second reading of Bill S-15, An Act to amend the Criminal Code and the Wild Animal and Plant Protection and Regulation of International and Interprovincial Trade Act.
After debate,
The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Poirier, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Gignac, seconded by the Honourable Senator Klyne, for the second reading of Bill C-34, An Act to amend the Investment Canada Act.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
The bill was then read the second time.
The Honourable Senator Gignac moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Klyne, that the bill be referred to the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Commerce and the Economy.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Reports of Committees – Other
Orders No. 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Motions
Orders No. 1, 131 and 132 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Inquiries
Orders No. 3, 4, 5 and 6 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Other Business
Ordered, That motion No. 173 standing in the name of the Honourable Senator Saint-Germain on the Notice Paper be brought forward.
The Honourable Senator Saint-Germain moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Clement:
That, notwithstanding any provision of the Rules or previous order, the Honourable Senator Yussuff take the place of the Honourable Senator Dupuis as one of the members of the Standing Committee on Audit and Oversight as of January 17, 2024.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Senate Public Bills – Third Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills – Third Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Private Bills – Third Reading
Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Reports of Committees
Orders No. 1, 2 and 3 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Senate Public Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C., seconded by the Honourable Senator Plett, for the second reading of Bill S-221, An Act to amend the Governor General’s Act (retiring annuity and other benefits).
Ordered: That further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting, in the name of the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C.
Orders No. 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25 and 26 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator White, for the second reading of Bill S-271, An Act to amend the Royal Canadian Mounted Police Act.
The Honourable Senator McPhedran moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Aucoin, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator McCallum, seconded by the Honourable Senator White, for the second reading of Bill S-272, An Act to amend the Director of Public Prosecutions Act.
The Honourable Senator McPhedran moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Ross, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
Orders No. 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 and 38 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Commons Public Bills – Second Reading
Orders No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
Reports of Committees – Other
Orders No. 31, 33 and 40 were called and postponed until the next sitting.
DEFERRED VOTES
At 5:30 p.m., pursuant to rule 7-4(5)(c), the Senate proceeded to the taking of the deferred standing vote on the motion of the Honourable Senator Yussuff, seconded by the Honourable Senator Duncan, for the third reading of Bill C-21, An Act to amend certain Acts and to make certain consequential amendments (firearms).
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted on the following vote:
YEAS
The Honourable Senators
AucoinBernardBoehmBonifaceBoyerBureyBussonCardozoClementCordyCormierCotterCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDupuisForestFrancisGalvezGerbaGignacGoldGreeneHarderHartlingJafferKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieOmidvarOslerPatePatterson (Ontario)PetitclercPettenProsperQuinnRavaliaRinguetteRossSaint-GermainSimonsSmithSorensenWooYussuff—60
NAYS
The Honourable Senators
AndersonArnotAtaullahjanBattersBlackBoisvenuCarignanDuncanGreenwoodHousakosMacDonaldMarshallMartinMassicotteOhPatterson (Nunavut)PlettPoirierRichardsSeidmanTannasVernerWallinWells—24
ABSTENTIONS
The Honourable Senators
Nil
Accordingly, Bill C-21 was read a third time and passed.
Ordered, That a message be sent to the House of Commons to acquaint that House that the Senate has passed this bill without amendment.
Other Business
Reports of Committees – Other
Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Omidvar, seconded by the Honourable Senator Dean:
That the fifteenth report of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, entitled Doing What Works: Rethinking the Federal Framework for Suicide Prevention, deposited with the Clerk of the Senate on Thursday, June 8, 2023, be adopted and that, pursuant to rule 12-23(1), the Senate request a complete and detailed response from the government, with the Minister of Mental Health and Addictions being identified as minister responsible for responding to the report, in consultation with the Minister of Health.
After debate,
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted, on division.
A point of order was raised relating to correspondence sent to a committee of the House of Commons.
The Speaker advised the Senate that further arguments will be heard at the next sitting, at the end of Government Business.
ADJOURNMENT
With leave of the Senate,
The Honourable Senator Plett moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Carignan, P.C.:
That the Senate do now adjourn.
The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.
(Accordingly, at 6:16 p.m., the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 9 a.m.)
DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)
Report on the administration of the Species at Risk Act for the year 2022, pursuant to the Act, S.C. 2002, c. 29, s. 126.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-2494.