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3 Charles III , A.D. 2024, Canada

1st Session, 44th Parliament

Issue 218 (Unrevised)

Wednesday, September 18, 2024
2 p.m.

The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAl ZaibakAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoudreauBoyerBrazeauBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanForestFrancisFridhandlerGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldHartlingHousakosKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMassicotteMcBeanMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieMuggliOmidvarOslerOudarPattersonPetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRobinsonSaint-GermainSeidmanSeniorSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneVernerWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWooYussuff

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAl ZaibakAtaullahjanAucoinAudetteBattersBellemareBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoudreauBoyerBrazeauBureyBussonCardozoCarignanClementCordyCormierCoyleCuznerDagenaisDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDowneDuncanForestFrancisFridhandlerGagnéGalvezGerbaGignacGoldHartlingHousakosKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLankinLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMarshallMartinMassicotteMcBeanMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMégieMiville-DechêneMoncionMoodieMuggliOmidvarOslerOudarPattersonPetitclercPettenPlettProsperQuinnRavaliaRichardsRinguetteRobinsonSaint-GermainSeidmanSeniorSimonsSmithSorensenTannasVaroneVernerWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWooYussuff

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

INTRODUCTION OF SENATORS

The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the Clerk of the Senate had received a certificate from the Registrar General of Canada showing that Tracy Ann Muggli had been summoned to the Senate.

The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that there was a senator without waiting to be introduced.

The Honourable Senator Muggli was introduced between the Honourable Senator Gold, P.C., and the Honourable Senator Boyer, and having presented His Majesty’s Writ of Summons it was read by one of the clerks at the table as follows:

CANADA

Mary May Simon

(G.S.)

Charles the Third, by the Grace of God King of Canada and His other Realms and Territories, Head of the Commonwealth.

TO

Our Trusty and Well-beloved,

TRACY ANN MUGGLI

of the City of Saskatoon, in the Province of Saskatchewan,

GREETING:

KNOW YOU, that as well for the especial trust and confidence We have manifested in you, as for the purpose of obtaining your advice and assistance in all weighty and arduous affairs which may the State and Defence of Canada concern, We have thought fit to summon you to the Senate of Canada.

AND WE do command you, that all difficulties and excuses whatsoever laying aside, you be and appear for the purposes aforesaid, in the Senate of Canada at all times whensoever and wheresoever Our Parliament may be in Canada convoked and holden, and this you are in no wise to omit.

IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent and the Great Seal of Canada to be hereunto affixed.

WITNESS:

Our Right Trusty and Well-beloved Mary May Simon, Chancellor and Principal Companion of Our Order of Canada, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Military Merit, Chancellor and Commander of Our Order of Merit of the Police Forces, Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of Canada.

AT OUR GOVERNMENT HOUSE, in Our City of Ottawa, this sixteenth day of August in the year of Our Lord two thousand and twenty-four and in the second year of Our Reign.

BY COMMAND,

F.-P. CHAMPAGNE

Registrar General of Canada

The Honourable Senator Muggli came to the table and took and subscribed the oath prescribed by law, which was administered by the Clerk of the Senate, the Commissioner appointed for that purpose, and took her seat as a member of the Senate.

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The Honourable the Speaker informed the Senate that the honourable senator introduced today had made and subscribed the Declaration of Qualification required of her by the Constitution Act, 1867, in the presence of the Clerk of the Senate, the Commissioner appointed to receive and witness same.

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

Question Period

The Senate proceeded to Question Period.

Delayed Answers

Pursuant to rule 4-9(7), the Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson tabled the following:

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada (including the Canadian Pari-Mutuel Agency), Canadian Grain Commission and Farm Products Council of Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3284S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3285S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3286S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Canada Revenue Agency.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3287S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Canada Economic Development for Quebec Regions.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3288S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Fisheries and Oceans Canada and Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3289S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Indigenous Services Canada, including Indian Oil and Gas Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3290S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — National Defence, Military Grievances External Review Committee, Military Police Complaints Commission, National Defence and Canadian Armed Forces Ombudsman and Communications Security Establishment.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3291S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Environment and Climate Change Canada, Impact Assessment Agency of Canada and Parks Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3292S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Employment and Social Development Canada, Accessibility Standards Canada and Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3293S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3294S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Federal Economic Development Agency for Northern Ontario.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3295S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Department of Finance Canada, Bank of Canada, Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation, Canada Development Investment Corporation, Canada Pension Plan Investment Board, Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions and Royal Canadian Mint.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3296S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Global Affairs Canada, Invest in Canada, Export Development Canada, International Development Research Centre and Canadian Commercial Corporation.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3297S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Health Canada, Public Health Agency of Canada, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Canadian Institutes of Health Research and Patented Medicine Prices Review Board.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3298S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Crown-Indigenous Relations and Northern Affairs Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3299S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada and Immigration and Refugee Board of Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3300S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada (including special operating agencies), Canadian Space Agency, National Research Council Canada, Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada, Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada, Statistics Canada, Standards Council of Canada, Copyright Board of Canada, Business Development Bank of Canada and Destination Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3301S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Department of Justice Canada, Canadian Human Rights Commission and Administrative Tribunals Support Service of Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3302S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Natural Resources Canada, Canada Energy Regulator, Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, Northern Pipeline Agency and Atomic Energy of Canada Limited.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3303S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Pacific Economic Development Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3304S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Canadian Heritage, Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission, Library and Archives Canada, National Battlefields Commission, National Film Board of Canada, Canada Council for the Arts, Ingenium – Canada’s Museums of Science and Innovation, CBC/Radio-Canada, Canadian Museum for Human Rights, Canadian Museum of History, Canadian Museum of Nature, National Arts Centre, National Gallery of Canada, Telefilm Canada, Canadian Museum of Immigration at Pier 21, Canadian Race Relations Foundation, Canadian Conservation Institute and Canadian Heritage Information Network.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3305S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Privy Council Office.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3306S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Public Prosecution Service of Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3307S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Prairies Economic Development Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3308S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Public Safety Canada, Canada Border Services Agency, Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Correctional Service of Canada, Parole Board of Canada and Royal Canadian Mounted Police.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3309S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Public Services and Procurement Canada, Canada Lands Company, Canada Post Corporation, Defence Construction Canada, National Capital Commission and Shared Services Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3310S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Women and Gender Equality Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3311S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat, Canada School of Public Service and Public Sector Pension Investment Board.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3312S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Transport Canada, Canadian Transportation Agency, Atlantic Pilotage Authority, Canadian Air Transport Security Authority, Federal Bridge Corporation Limited, Great Lakes Pilotage Authority, Laurentian Pilotage Authority, Marine Atlantic Inc., Pacific Pilotage Authority and VIA Rail Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3313S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Public Service Commission of Canada and Transportation Safety Board of Canada.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3314S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Canadian Intergovernmental Conference Secretariat.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3315S.

Response to Question No. 46, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding workplace harassment complaints — Veterans Affairs Canada and Veterans Review and Appeal Board.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3316S.

Response to Question No. 86, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the National Capital Commission — Privy Council Office.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3317S.

Response to Question No. 86, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the National Capital Commission — National Capital Commission.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3318S.

Response to Question No. 89, dated November 23, 2021, appearing on the Order Paper and Notice Paper in the name of the Honourable Senator Plett, regarding the Independant Advisory Board for Senate Appointments.—Sessional Paper No. 1/44-3319S.

Orders of the Day

Government Business

Bills – Reports of Committees

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

ADJOURNMENT

With leave of the Senate,

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petten:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 3:24 p.m., the Senate was continued until tomorrow at 2 p.m.)

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Agriculture and Forestry

The Honourable Senator Kutcher replaced the Honourable Senator McNair (September 18, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Marshall was added to the membership (September 17, 2024).

The Honourable Senator Plett was removed from the membership of the committee, substitution pending (September 17, 2024).

Standing Senate Committee on Energy, the Environment and Natural Resources

The Honourable Senator Arnot replaced the Honourable Senator Woo (September 17, 2024).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Boyer was added to the membership (September 18, 2024).

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