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4 Charles III , A.D. 2025, Canada

1st Session, 45th Parliament

Issue 27 (Unrevised)

Thursday, October 23, 2025
1:30 p.m.

The Honourable RAYMONDE GAGNÉ, Speaker


The Members convened were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAndersonArnoldArnotAudetteBattersBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoudreauBoyerBrazeauBussonCarignanClementCormierCoyleCuznerDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDhillonDowneDuncanForestFrancisFridhandlerGagnéGerbaGignacGreenwoodHarderHayHébertHousakosKaretak-LindellKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMartinMcBeanMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMiville-DechêneMohamedMoncionMoodieMuggliOslerOudarPattersonPettenProsperPupatelloRavaliaRinguetteRobinsonRossSaint-GermainSeniorSimonsSmithSuretteTannasVaroneWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWilsonWooYouanceYussuff

The Members in attendance to business were:

The Honourable Senators

AdlerAndersonArnoldArnot*AtaullahjanAudetteBattersBernardBlackBoehmBonifaceBoudreauBoyerBrazeau*BureyBussonCarignanClementCormierCoyleCuznerDalphondDaskoDeacon (Nova Scotia)Deacon (Ontario)DeanDhillonDowneDuncanForestFrancisFridhandlerGagnéGerbaGignacGreenwoodHarderHayHébert*HenkelHousakosKaretak-LindellKingstonKlyneKutcherLaBoucane-BensonLoffredaMacAdamMacDonaldManningMartinMcBeanMcCallumMcNairMcPhedranMiville-DechêneMohamedMoncionMoodieMuggliOslerOudarPattersonPettenProsperPupatelloRavaliaRinguetteRobinsonRossSaint-GermainSeniorSimonsSmithSuretteTannasVaroneWallinWells (Alberta)Wells (Newfoundland and Labrador)WhiteWilsonWooYouanceYussuff

The first list records senators present in the Senate Chamber during the course of the sitting.

An asterisk in the second list indicates a senator who, while not present during the sitting, was in attendance to business, as defined in subsections 8(2) and (3) of the Senators Attendance Policy.

PRAYERS

Senators’ Statements

Some Honourable Senators made statements.

ROUTINE PROCEEDINGS

Presenting or Tabling Reports from Committees

The Honourable Senator Moodie, Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology, presented the committee’s first report (Bill S-201, An Act respecting a national framework on sickle cell disease, without amendment).

The Honourable Senator Osler moved, for the Honourable Senator Ince, seconded by the Honourable Senator Tannas, that the bill be placed on the Orders of the Day for third reading at the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Orders of the Day

A message was brought from the House of Commons to return Bill S-1001, An Act to authorize Gore Mutual Insurance Company to apply to be continued as a body corporate under the laws of the Province of Quebec,

And to acquaint the Senate that the Commons has passed this bill, without amendment.

Government Business

Reports of Committees – Other

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Order No. 1 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

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The Honourable Senator Petten moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Duncan:

That, when the Senate next adjourns after the adoption of this motion, it do stand adjourned until Tuesday, October 28, 2025, at 2 p.m.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

Question Period

Pursuant to the order adopted on June 4, 2025, the Senate proceeded to Question Period.

The Honourable Jill McKnight, P.C., M.P., Minister of Veterans Affairs and Associate Minister of National Defence, entered the Senate and took part in Question Period.

Other Business

Senate Public Bills – Second Reading

Orders No. 1 and 2 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Pate, seconded by the Honourable Senator Duncan, for the second reading of Bill S-206, An Act to develop a national framework for a guaranteed livable basic income.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator Patterson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Robinson, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 4, 5, 6 and 7 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Quinn, seconded by the Honourable Senator Osler, for the second reading of Bill S-216, An Act to declare the Chignecto Isthmus Dykeland System and related works to be for the general advantage of Canada.

After debate,

The Honourable Senator MacDonald moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Martin, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Resuming debate on the motion of the Honourable Senator Downe, seconded by the Honourable Senator Prosper, for the second reading of Bill S-217, An Act to amend the Canada Revenue Agency Act (reporting on unpaid income tax).

The Honourable Senator Martin moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Smith, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

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Orders No. 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24 and 25 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Reports of Committees – Other

Order No. 4 was called and postponed until the next sitting.

Motions

Orders No. 3, 5 and 13 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

Inquiries

Orders No. 1, 3 and 5 were called and postponed until the next sitting.

MOTIONS

The Honourable Senator Woo moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Boyer:

That the Senate call on the Government of Canada to create a national strategy to engage Canadians abroad.

The Honourable Senator Woo moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Simons, that further debate on the motion be adjourned until the next sitting.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

ADJOURNMENT

The Honourable Senator LaBoucane-Benson moved, seconded by the Honourable Senator Petten:

That the Senate do now adjourn.

The question being put on the motion, it was adopted.

(Accordingly, at 3:43 p.m., the Senate was continued until Tuesday, October 28, 2025, at 2 p.m.)

DOCUMENTS DEPOSITED WITH THE CLERK OF THE SENATE PURSUANT TO RULE 14-1(7)

Report of the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer, entitled Projecting the Cost of the Disaster Financial Assistance Arrangements Program, pursuant to the Parliament of Canada Act, R.S.C. 1985, c. P-1, sbs. 79.2(2).—Sessional Paper No. 1/45-589.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy Progress Report for 2024-25 of Invest in Canada Hub, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(3).—Sessional Paper No. 1/45-590.

Departmental Sustainable Development Strategy Progress Report for 2024-25 of the Office of the Chief Electoral Officer, pursuant to the Federal Sustainable Development Act, S.C. 2008, c. 33, sbs. 11(3).—Sessional Paper No. 1/45-591.

Service Fees Report of the Canada Revenue Agency for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2025, pursuant to the Service Fees Act, S.C. 2017, c. 20, s. 451 “20(1)”.—Sessional Paper No. 1/45-592.

Changes in Membership of Committees Pursuant to Rule 12-5

Standing Senate Committee on Foreign Affairs and International Trade

The Honourable Senator McNair replaced the Honourable Senator Ravalia (October 23, 2025).

The Honourable Senator Ravalia replaced the Honourable Senator Kutcher (October 23, 2025).

Standing Senate Committee on Indigenous Peoples

The Honourable Senator Sorensen replaced the Honourable Senator McNair (October 23, 2025).

The Honourable Senator Boniface replaced the Honourable Senator Coyle (October 23, 2025).

Standing Senate Committee on Legal and Constitutional Affairs

The Honourable Senator Pate replaced the Honourable Senator Galvez (October 23, 2025).

The Honourable Senator Galvez replaced the Honourable Senator Pate (October 23, 2025).

Standing Senate Committee on Social Affairs, Science and Technology

The Honourable Senator Petitclerc replaced the Honourable Senator Forest (October 23, 2025).

The Honourable Senator Forest replaced the Honourable Senator Petitclerc (October 23, 2025).

Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications

The Honourable Senator Aucoin replaced the Honourable Senator Robinson (October 23, 2025).

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